# 5 Reasons Why Trump Will Win - Michael Moore

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 25, 2016, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835 "2016-07-25T06:59:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835/21 "2016-07-25T21:24:44Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> By and large, the people who are planning to vote for Trump are doing so primarily, if not exclusively, because they are afraid that Clinton would be even worse.
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> [https://www.rt.com/usa/342045-clinton-trump-negative-partisanship/](https://www.rt.com/usa/342045-clinton-trump-negative-partisanship/)
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> As I posted in another thread recently, that is precisely why **I** am voting for Trump. There’s probably a dozen Democrats that I would vote for if they were running instead of Clinton.

What precisely do you think Hillary will do that is worth normalizing bigotry against Muslims and Latino immigrants?Exactly how different are Clinton’s positions from these dozen or so Democrats that she must be stopped while these others would earn your vote?

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835/22 "2016-07-25T21:36:00Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Is there really a need for a point by point rebuttal?

Not for Michael Moore.

I think Moore would likely achieve his first erection since Suzanne Somers’s Thighmaster infomercials went off the air if Trump won.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835/23 "2016-07-25T21:45:28Z")

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I live and work in the NY metro and have come across far more people than I expected who will vote for Trump, which is somewhat disturbing. There are a variety of reasons that range from “Hillary is a criminal” and “Trump knows how to run things” to “Hillary is boring and Trump will always have hot women around and make funny comments, plus won’t really do any of the things he talks about anyway.” It’s our reality tv culture coming back to bite us. Can’t wait for the “Team Putin vs. Team Trump” season of _Survivor_.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835/24 "2016-07-25T21:50:59Z")

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Point 1 is interesting.

People said the same thing about point 2 in 2008, but Obama won 70 million votes.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835/25 "2016-07-25T21:51:26Z")

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I live in Texas and have yet to encounter visible Trump support; yet I saw Trump posters/signs in Massachusetts. Weird.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835/26 "2016-07-25T21:51:49Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> I now understand how helpless a lot of anti-Hitler Germans must have felt in 1933. They voted against him, for what it was worth.
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> If he wins, I wonder how long it will be until we are breaking the glass of Muslim-owned businesses?
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> The parallels are truly frightening.

Everyone should read Sinclair Lewis’ “It Can’t Happen Here”.

I know several people who have been poll workers, and they have said that they don’t think Trump will win because so many of his supporters probably aren’t intelligent enough to know how the voting process works - that you have to register, etc.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835/27 "2016-07-25T21:53:04Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I live in Texas and have yet to encounter visible Trump support; yet I saw Trump posters/signs in Massachusetts. Weird.

I live in Iowa and have seen ONE Trump “sign”, and that was a car magnet.

I have a “Bernie 2016” sign in the back window of my car that I nabbed at the caucus, as well as a “Feel The Bern” t-shirt, and have yet to receive any negative feed back for either.

🆒

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835/28 "2016-07-25T21:55:14Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> As I said in another thread, his position is really kind of safe for him, because he wins either way: either he’s relieved at the outcome, or he has an I told you so.

This. It’s like Team USA in Olympic basketball; _“Oh, we have to respect our opponents; Spain and Argentina are good, France is talented…”_…yeah right. Everyone knows USA will win gold.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835/29 "2016-07-25T21:58:33Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Muslims, Sikhs, latinos… or heck, just anybody who has a “strange” lastname.

There’s a Gurdwara (Sikh temple) around the corner from me. They had an open house a couple years ago, after that man broke into the one in Milwaukee and shot a bunch of them because he thought they were Muslim.

I finally got a pro-Trump Facebook post a couple days ago, and without giving away details that could potentially identify the person, it didn’t surprise me. I think it’s one of those He’s Not A Democrat things. :dubious:

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835/30 "2016-07-25T22:09:49Z")

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The thing that frightens me is that Trump has already beaten the odds in so many ways that I am afraid that Moore might be right.

How can anyone believe a word Trump says? He stiffs his contractors, stiffs the people who invested in him (four bankrupties) and generally cares only about Trump. Like he gives a shit about those angry white men?

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835/31 "2016-07-25T22:55:54Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Everyone should read Sinclair Lewis’ “It Can’t Happen Here”.

Ya know, when I brought up Lewis’ book last autumn, people were all “naw, just a book; this is real life” and [concerns raised in a thread about a relevant Cracked.com article were routinely (and nearly unanimously) dismissed](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=770647).

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835/32 "2016-07-26T01:01:24Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Everyone should read Sinclair Lewis’ “It Can’t Happen Here”. . . .

Not available on Project Gutenberg…but [available on Project Gutenberg, Australia](http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks03/0301001h.html).

“Australia, Australia, Australia, Australia, We love you, amen, hcht-too.”

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835/33 "2016-07-26T04:34:33Z")

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I’ve been to Michael Moore’s hometown. Trump could win there, but Davison, Michigan is not the totality of America.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835/34 "2016-07-26T04:53:51Z")

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What did Moore say about Romney in 2012? Did he hedge his bets the same way?

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835/35 "2016-07-26T07:15:42Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> That’s called “Regretsit”.

Thought is was “Regrexit”.

Duddint matter. It’s just silly neo-logisms anyway. I’m waiting for the lemmings to figure out how to add “-gate” to it somehow. :rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-reasons-why-trump-will-win-michael-moore/760835/36 "2016-07-26T07:27:04Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> What did Moore say about Romney in 2012? Did he hedge his bets the same way?

> **[WATCH: Why Michael Moore Thinks Romney Will Win](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/michael-moore-mitt-romney_n_1843824)**
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> WATCH: Why Michael Moore Thinks Romney Will Win

"Moore said he believes that if the election were conducted “American Idol”-style, and Americans were able to vote from their couches, Obama “would win hands down.”

“That’s not what’s gonna happen,” he told Zepps. “This election’s going to be decided on who gets out the most people that day. Who’s up at four in the morning, making sure that dozens, hundreds, thousands of people in their communities are getting out to vote. And the Republican machine that is set up and the money behind it to guarantee [what] is really the only important thing — turnout on that day — that’s what looks pretty scary here.”"

> **[2012 United States presidential election](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012)**
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> This is an accepted version of this page 
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> Barack Obama
> Democratic
> Barack Obama
> Democratic

It was 51.1% vs 47.2% so I think that’s pretty close.

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