# 53 bicycles:  A lateral thinking puzzle

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**Created:** [July 9, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868 "2017-07-09T19:51:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2401 "2018-01-25T15:41:11Z")

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Oh, thought of another one:  
Has there been a relevant change in the population of any non-mammal animal?  
(rabies only affects mammals, but some other animal might be relevant indirectly)

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2402 "2018-01-25T15:42:44Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> **Rabies has been on a meteoric rise in India over the past 20 years or so. The reason behind this is, I think, fascinating. What happened?**

Does this refer to rabies in humans? Rabies in domestic animals? Rabies in wild animals?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2403 "2018-01-25T17:06:36Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Does this refer to rabies in humans? Rabies in domestic animals? Rabies in wild animals?

I’ll break that into clear three answers:

1. Humans? Yes.
2. Domestic animals? No, I don’t think so.\*
3. Wild animals? Yes.

\*Maybe, I have no info. on that. It’s possible.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2404 "2018-01-25T19:09:50Z")

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Are the wild animals rats?

Are the wild animals drawn to cow dung?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2405 "2018-01-25T20:58:37Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Are the wild animals rats?
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> Are the wild animals drawn to cow dung?

No to both.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2406 "2018-01-25T21:23:52Z")

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You appear to have missed some of mine:

> [@](#):
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> Are cows becoming rabid at a greater rate than previously?  
> Are rabid cows infecting humans at a greater rate than previously?  
> Are rabid cows infecting some other animal at a greater rate than previously?  
> Has there been a relevant increase in the population of cows?  
> Has there been a relevant increase in the population of humans?  
> Has there been a relevant increase in the population of some animal other than cows or humans?

> [@](#):
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> Oh, thought of another one:  
> Has there been a relevant change in the population of any non-mammal animal?  
> (rabies only affects mammals, but some other animal might be relevant indirectly)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2407 "2018-01-25T21:48:42Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Are cows becoming rabid at a greater rate than previously? NO  
> Are rabid cows infecting humans at a greater rate than previously? NO  
> Are rabid cows infecting some other animal at a greater rate than previously? YES  
> Has there been a relevant increase in the population of cows? NO  
> Has there been a relevant increase in the population of humans? NO  
> Has there been a relevant increase in the population of some animal other than cows or humans? NO

> [@Chronos](#):
>
> Oh, thought of another one:  
> Has there been a relevant change in the population of any non-mammal animal? YES  
> (rabies only affects mammals, but some other animal might be relevant indirectly)

kk

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2408 "2018-01-26T07:02:03Z")

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Are bats involved? Are snakes involved?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2409 "2018-01-26T15:00:48Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Are bats involved? Are snakes involved?

No to both.

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**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2410 "2018-01-26T17:38:06Z")

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Because of religious beliefs, have they stopped spreading any type of pesticides because it resulted in mosquito’s being killed?

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2411 "2018-01-26T17:45:49Z")

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OK, this is my first time participating in this thread, so I hope I’m doing this right…

Based on these two questions and answers:

_Has there been a relevant increase in the population of some animal other than cows or humans? NO_

_Has there been a relevant change in the population of any non-mammal animal? YES_

I’ll ask this question:

Has there been a relevant decrease in the population of any non-mammal animal?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2412 "2018-01-26T18:42:01Z")

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> [@SykoSkotty](#):
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> Because of religious beliefs, have they stopped spreading any type of pesticides because it resulted in mosquito’s being killed?

NO

> [@Railer13](#):
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> OK, this is my first time participating in this thread, so I hope I’m doing this right…
> 
> Based on these two questions and answers:
> 
> _Has there been a relevant increase in the population of some animal other than cows or humans? NO_
> 
> _Has there been a relevant change in the population of any non-mammal animal? YES_
> 
> I’ll ask this question:
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> Has there been a relevant decrease in the population of any non-mammal animal? YES

kk

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2413 "2018-01-27T14:58:37Z")

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Is the relevant non-mammal animal (or at least, one of them) a…  
…bird?  
…reptile?  
…amphibian?  
…fish?  
…insect?  
…non-insect invertebrate?

Is the relevant non-mammal animal (or at least one of them) a…  
…predator…  
…prey…  
…parasite…  
…commensalist symbiote…  
to a mammal which is carrying rabies?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2414 "2018-01-27T17:06:39Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Is the relevant non-mammal animal (or at least, one of them) a…  
> …bird? YES  
> …reptile? NO  
> …amphibian? NO  
> …fish? NO  
> …insect? NO  
> …non-insect invertebrate? NO
> 
> Is the relevant non-mammal animal (or at least one of them) a…  
> …predator… NO  
> …prey… NO  
> …parasite… NO  
> …commensalist symbiote… NO  
> to a mammal which is carrying rabies?

So, no to everything except “bird”.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2415 "2018-01-27T17:08:21Z")

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If anyone would like to try and summarize what you know so far, I will happily correct it or comment on its accuracy.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2416 "2018-01-27T19:07:36Z")

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Is the bird in question a scavenger? A vulture?  
Is the bird in question a seed-eater? A parrot?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2417 "2018-01-27T20:19:56Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Is the bird in question a scavenger? A vulture?  
> Is the bird in question a seed-eater? A parrot?

It’s a scavenger.

It’s vultures.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2418 "2018-01-27T20:28:03Z")

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Is it something to do with sky burial?

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2419 "2018-01-27T21:56:43Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> If anyone would like to try and summarize what you know so far, I will happily correct it or comment on its accuracy.

So, if I’m following correctly, the vulture population is decreasing, and somehow this has led to an increase of rabies.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2420 "2018-01-27T21:59:55Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Is it something to do with sky burial?

NO

> [@Railer13](#):
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> So, if I’m following correctly, the vulture population is decreasing, and somehow this has led to an increase of rabies.

YES, but a fuller explanation will be needed to solve it.

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