# 53 bicycles:  A lateral thinking puzzle

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 9, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868 "2017-07-09T19:51:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2781 "2018-03-21T22:26:52Z")

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Is Rex running some kind of con game or scam?

Is the investment given to Rex by someone else?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2782 "2018-03-22T00:25:43Z")

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> [@SpoilerVirgin](#):
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> Is Rex running some kind of con game or scam? **I think “scam” is a reasonable term, yes.**
> 
> Is the investment given to Rex by someone else? NO

kk

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2783 "2018-03-22T00:46:20Z")

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Is the “investment” a physical thing?

Was the “investment” knowledge or information about something?

Was the “investment” something like a bribe or illicit payment?

Did Rex die from something that’s primary purpose was to kill people (for example, being shot by a gun, as opposed to being crushed in a car crusher)?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2784 "2018-03-22T01:41:19Z")

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Was Rex the only one to die?

Would Rex’s death be considered murder?

Did Rex have some reason to believe his investment would always work?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2785 "2018-03-22T01:54:29Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> Is the “investment” a physical thing? Yes…I mean, money is physical.
> 
> Was the “investment” knowledge or information about something? No.
> 
> Was the “investment” something like a bribe or illicit payment? No.
> 
> Did Rex die from something that’s primary purpose was to kill people (for example, being shot by a gun, as opposed to being crushed in a car crusher)? YES

> [@Biotop](#):
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> Was Rex the only one to die? NO
> 
> Would Rex’s death be considered murder? NO
> 
> Did Rex have some reason to believe his investment would always work? NO

KK

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2786 "2018-03-22T03:00:52Z")

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So, Rex’s death was intentional, but would not be considered murder…

Would it be considered self-defense?

Manslaughter?

Judicial killing?

Warfare?

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2787 "2018-03-22T03:20:28Z")

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Was Rex killed by:

a gun?  
another projectile weapon?  
a melee weapon?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2788 "2018-03-22T21:12:04Z")

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> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#):
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> So, Rex’s death was intentional, but would not be considered murder…
> 
> Would it be considered self-defense? NO
> 
> Manslaughter? NO
> 
> Judicial killing? YES
> 
> Warfare? NO

> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> Was Rex killed by:
> 
> a gun? I THINK SO, YES  
> another projectile weapon? NO  
> a melee weapon? NO

KK

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2789 "2018-03-23T00:28:20Z")

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Is the scam similar to the one in A Few Dollars More?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2790 "2018-03-23T00:57:29Z")

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Was Rex a king?

Was Rex any sort of governmental office-holder?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2791 "2018-03-23T01:02:30Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Is the scam similar to the one in A Few Dollars More?

No, I don’t’ think so. Describe the scam for me; I’ve not seen the movie. This does not involve bounty hunters of any kind.

> [@Chronos](#):
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> Was Rex a king?
> 
> Was Rex any sort of governmental office-holder?

No to both.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2792 "2018-03-23T02:27:08Z")

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He was killed by some one who intended to kill him, but was not a victim of dishonesty …  
The investment was made once before  
by a different person (the First Investor)  
who also died

1. Was the investment a bribe?

2. Was Rex killed by a person?

3. Was the First Investor killed by a person?

4. If 2 and 3 are answered yes", were they killed by the same person?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2793 "2018-03-23T02:36:37Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> He was killed by some one who intended to kill him, but was not a victim of dishonesty …  
> The investment was made once before  
> by a different person (the First Investor)  
> who also died
> 
> - **NO. Not by a different person. By him.**
> 
> 1. Was the investment a bribe? NO
> 
> 2. Was Rex killed by a person? YES
> 
> 3. Was the First Investor killed by a person? He is the first investor.
> 
> 4. If 2 and 3 are answered yes", were they killed by the same person? N/A

KK

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2794 "2018-03-23T02:47:11Z")

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So, it was a judicial killing by gun, but not involving bounty hunters.

Was it a judicial execution, like a firing squad?  
Was the person who killed Rex a law enforcement officer?  
Was the person who killed Rex a soldier or military combatant?

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2795 "2018-03-23T02:58:55Z")

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Could this happen in the present day?

Could it happen in the 20th century?

19th?

18th?

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2796 "2018-03-23T10:13:54Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> No, I don’t’ think so. Describe the scam for me; I’ve not seen the movie. This does not involve bounty hunters of any kind.

A man gets turned in to the authorities for a bounty. When the man is being executed he is rescued by the man who turned him in, to repeat the scam at the next town.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2797 "2018-03-23T10:20:55Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> A man gets turned in to the authorities for a bounty. When the man is being executed he is rescued by the man who turned him in, to repeat the scam at the next town.

That’s _The Good, the Bad and the Ugly_

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2798 "2018-03-23T11:59:32Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> So, it was a judicial killing by gun, but not involving bounty hunters.
> 
> Was it a judicial execution, like a firing squad? YES, pretty much.  
> Was the person who killed Rex a law enforcement officer? NOT POLICE, NO. Here I’ll help: An executioner.  
> Was the person who killed Rex a soldier or military combatant? NO

> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#):
>
> Could this happen in the present day? YES
> 
> Could it happen in the 20th century? YES
> 
> 19th? YES
> 
> 18th? YES

> [@Quartz](#):
>
> A man gets turned in to the authorities for a bounty. When the man is being executed he is rescued by the man who turned him in, to repeat the scam at the next town.

NO, it isn’t that.

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2799 "2018-03-23T16:42:42Z")

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Is the country where this happens relevant?

Could it happen in the United States?

Did Rex cause the death of anyone else?

If yes:

Intentionally?

As an unintended consequence of some action related to the “investment”?

If no:

Is he being executed for treason?

Some other crime?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/2800 "2018-03-23T22:03:31Z")

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> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#):
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> Is the country where this happens relevant? **NOT REALLY. N** O. Maybe a smidge.\*\*
> 
> Could it happen in the United States? **Which part???**
> 
> Did Rex cause the death of anyone else? **KIND OF. I’D SAY YES**
> 
> If yes:
> 
> Intentionally? **NO**
> 
> As an unintended consequence of some action related to the “investment”? \*\*YES, DEFINITELY.  
> \*\*  
> If no:
> 
> Is he being executed for treason? NO
> 
> Some other crime? YES

KK

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