# 53 bicycles:  A lateral thinking puzzle

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 9, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868 "2017-07-09T19:51:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3162 "2018-06-08T01:02:38Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Board game?

**No**

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3163 "2018-06-08T12:51:54Z")

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Was money exchanged with any of the other participants?  
Was there gambling involved?  
Did the game include a significant component of luck?  
Did the game include a significant component of skill?  
Did the game include any skill at all?  
Is the nature of the game relevant?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3164 "2018-06-08T14:45:15Z")

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**reply to Chronos**

Was money exchanged with any of the other participants? **No**  
Was there gambling involved? **No**  
Did the game include a significant component of luck? **No**  
Did the game include a significant component of skill? **Yes**  
Did the game include any skill at all? **Yes**  
Is the nature of the game relevant? **Yes**

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3165 "2018-06-08T15:12:43Z")

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- Were the objects playing pieces?
- Did each player place the object on the floor only once per game?
- Is the game for two players?
- Is the game for more than two players?
- Does the game involve significant physical skill (like snooker or throwing hoops)?
- Does the game involve significant mental skill (like chess)?
- Is the object a highly regular shape (like a sphere, cube, ring etc)?
- Is the object a semi-regular shape (like, say, a chess pawn)?
- Is the object an irregular shape (like, say, an anthropomorphic shape)?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3166 "2018-06-08T15:17:42Z")

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Does the game involve throwing things? Aiming to hit or get close to a particular spot, object or target?

Does each player have only one of the object? Or several?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3167 "2018-06-08T15:25:20Z")

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**reply to Walken After Midnight**

- Were the objects playing pieces? **Yes**
- Did each player place the object on the floor only once per game? \*\* No\*\*
- Is the game for two players? \*\*Can be \*\*
- Is the game for more than two players? **Can be**
- Does the game involve significant physical skill (like snooker or throwing hoops) **Not significant, but skill**
- Does the game involve significant mental skill (like chess)? **No**
- Is the object a highly regular shape (like a sphere, cube, ring etc)? **Yes**
- Is the object a semi-regular shape (like, say, a chess pawn)? **No**
- Is the object an irregular shape (like, say, an anthropomorphic shape)? **No**

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3168 "2018-06-08T15:28:45Z")

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**Reply to Peter Morris**

Does the game involve throwing things? **No**

Aiming to hit or get close to a particular spot, object or target? **Yes**

Does each player have only one of the object? Or several? **One**

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3169 "2018-06-08T16:47:39Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> Does the game involve throwing things? No  
> Aiming to hit or get close to a particular spot, object or target? Yes

So, it’s a targeting game, but not thrown objects. What is the alternative, I wonder.

Were the objects dropped from above? shot out of something, such as a gun, bow or catapult? Slid across the floor as in shuffleboard?

Was the coffin the target? A particular part of the coffin? Something attached to the coffin?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3170 "2018-06-08T17:11:15Z")

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**reply to Peter Morris**

So, it’s a targeting game, but not thrown objects. What is the alternative, I wonder.

Were the objects dropped from above? **No**  
shot out of something, such as a gun, bow or catapult? **No**  
Slid across the floor as in shuffleboard? **No**

Was the coffin the target? **sort of…**  
A particular part of the coffin? \*\*sort of… \*\*  
Something attached to the coffin? **No**

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**I am about to go to work, but I think someone is about to get this, I think. What skill game might involve people putting some game pieces on the floor by a large coffin in the basement of a funeral home? That’s the question.**

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3171 "2018-06-08T17:31:25Z")

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Was the game to see who could get their ball closest to the coffin? See who could get nearest to the length of the coffin?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3172 "2018-06-08T17:37:06Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Was the game to see who could get their ball closest to the coffin? See who could get nearest to the length of the coffin?

**No to all**.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3173 "2018-06-08T17:48:11Z")

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Was the object of the game to get the pieces into the coffin (in this particular instance)?

Is the game tiddlywinks?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3174 "2018-06-08T18:06:19Z")

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> [@SpoilerVirgin](#):
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> Was the object of the game to get the pieces into the coffin (in this particular instance)?
> 
> Is the game tiddlywinks?

\*\*  
No to all.\*\*

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3175 "2018-06-08T18:11:28Z")

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Is it a sport?

Do you think most people in the United States have played it?

Is it Dungeons and Dragons?

Is it an RPG at all?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3176 "2018-06-08T18:18:44Z")

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Was the “funeral parlour” an ancient or historical site?

Was it a pyramid? The great pyramid of Cheops/ Khufu ?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3177 "2018-06-08T18:22:11Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> **correction for Walken After Midnight**
> 
> - is it wood or plant-derived?  
> **No. After a bit of checking, I don’t think the item is really wood/plant derived. But at one time it was.**

Is it a fossil? Is it coal?

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**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3178 "2018-06-08T19:11:34Z")

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Is it stone or metal?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3179 "2018-06-08T22:42:28Z")

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\*\*reply to Mahaloth \*\*

Is it a sport? \*\*Broadly defining sport, Yes \*\*

Do you think most people in the United States have played it? \*\*Yes, I would guess so. \*\*

Is it Dungeons and Dragons? \*\*No \*\*

Is it an RPG at all? \*\*No \*\*

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3180 "2018-06-08T22:47:05Z")

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\*\*reply to Peter Morris \*\*

Was the “funeral parlour” an ancient or historical site? \*\*No \*\*

Was it a pyramid? The great pyramid of Cheops/ Khufu ? \*\*No to all. \*\*

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/53-bicycles-a-lateral-thinking-puzzle/790868/3181 "2018-06-08T22:50:36Z")

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> [@MonkeyMensch](#):
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> Is it stone or metal?

\*\*No \*\*

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