# 6:15 PM still 121 degrees at Badwater

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 5, 2016, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535 "2016-06-05T01:14:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/21 "2016-06-05T21:40:56Z")

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I’ve got a cool picture of my motorcycle leaning against the sign at Badwater. Froze my ass off on the way home. Gets _cold_ in the desert on winter nights.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/22 "2016-06-06T19:40:47Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> Well…it may be 121°, but it only _feels like_ 113°. That makes a big difference.

Yeah, nice breeze a blowin’.

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**Author:** ![Marine\_One](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marine_one/32/3461_2.png) [@Marine\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marine_One)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/23 "2016-06-06T20:06:30Z")

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It was so hot, a dog was chasing a cat and they were both walking.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/24 "2016-06-07T00:11:23Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> Last time I was in Death Valley it was only 108. It wasn’t really a problem since I had a room right across from the pool at Furnace Creek Ranch. I love that pool, especially at sunset–you can float in the 82 degree water and watch the mountains change color and the stars come out. It’s magical.

Oh my. Furnace Creek Ranch is my favorite place on earth, my late husband and I went there all the time. The oasis garden in the moonlight. Lounging by the pool at night while fires burned in the big outdoor fireplaces. Watching the stars from the top floor lounge. The food in the dining room is fantastic as well.

And we made out with our shirts off in Badwater ( hubby wanted to do it but I chickened out.) …we walked out to the actual low point which is a bit away from the road.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/25 "2016-06-07T01:36:04Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> Last time I was in Death Valley it was only 108. It wasn’t really a problem since I had a room right across from the pool at Furnace Creek Ranch. I love that pool, especially at sunset–you can float in the 82 degree water and watch the mountains change color and the stars come out. It’s magical.

that sounds wonderful!

I recently met someone who told the Death Valley is the most beautiful place on earth & I heard this spring the wildflowers were spectacular.

I’m really wanting to visit, maybe next Spring. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/26 "2016-06-07T02:07:17Z")

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Pictures from the Death Valley superbloom in February:

[https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mq75wridxca2vl4/AADUqNUshQjM7SyqYLVInRZ-a?dl=0](https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mq75wridxca2vl4/AADUqNUshQjM7SyqYLVInRZ-a?dl=0)

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**Author:** ![ssgenius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@ssgenius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ssgenius)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/27 "2016-06-07T03:24:35Z")

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On another point,

Will the 134 degree F maximum there in 1913 (the current world record) ever be exceeded?

I believe the highest they had since then is 129 F (multiple times)

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/28 "2016-06-07T03:26:11Z")

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Supposed to get down to 72F in Badwater Saturday night.

Coats and jackets will be required.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/29 "2016-06-07T03:44:50Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Supposed to get down to 72F in Badwater Saturday night.
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> Coats and jackets will be required.

And pants.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/30 "2016-06-07T08:35:10Z")

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> [@ssgenius](#):
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> On another point,
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> Will the 134 degree F maximum there in 1913 (the current world record) ever be exceeded?
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> I believe the highest they had since then is 129 F (multiple times)

_Ever?_ Sure. The sun will eventually become a red giant, after all, and consume the inner planets, including Earth.

Anytime _soon?_ Sure. Global climate change.

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**Author:** ![ssgenius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@ssgenius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ssgenius)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/31 "2016-06-07T22:33:26Z")

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I know that records eventually fall but this is a record that has been around for over 100 years (Not taking in account the discredited Libyan 136 F)

I am surprised that it has lasted so long and was just pondering how long before it is broken. (10 years, 25 years, 50 years)?

There are not many weather records such as that one that have lasted for 100+ years. Especially with more weather stations around monitoring and recording data.

Even worldwide, there is only one additional 130+ high (131 F in Tunisia)

That being said, even the person recording the 134 F temperature on that day was a little suspicious of the high as he included a note that even he thought it was abnormally high.

However, when they checked and recertified the thermometer, the temperature recorded was valid.

Anyways, I am still amazed that this record high has stood as being the record for this long of a time

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/32 "2016-06-08T01:32:44Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> That’s like saying “I had the heaves, but they were the dry heaves.”

I am so stealing that. Thanks!

PS: I love Death Valley. Wish I was there to enjoy the heat. With an air-conditioned car and a ton of cold water.

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**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/33 "2016-06-08T04:19:42Z")

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> [@ssgenius](#):
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> On another point,
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> Will the 134 degree F maximum there in 1913 (the current world record) ever be exceeded?
> 
> I believe the highest they had since then is 129 F (multiple times)

Looks like NOAA is trying to cook the books by placing a thermometer close to a building and asphalt roadway at Badwater. They are dying to get a new record.

> **[It seems NOAA has 'de-modernized' the official Death Valley station to use...](https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/30/it-seems-noaa-has-de-modernized-the-official-death-valley-station-to-use-older-equipment-to-make-a-record-more-likely/)**
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> About those ‘record’ Death Valley temperatures everybody is waiting for… UPDATE: 128°F today at Death Valley COOP station. See Record Event Report below. It seems the media and th…

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/34 "2016-06-08T04:27:02Z")

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> [@Mangosteen](#):
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> Looks like NOAA is trying to cook the books by placing a thermometer close to a building and asphalt roadway at Badwater. They are dying to get a new record.
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> [https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/30/it-seems-noaa-has-de-modernized-the-official-death-valley-station-to-use-older-equipment-to-make-a-record-more-likely/](https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/30/it-seems-noaa-has-de-modernized-the-official-death-valley-station-to-use-older-equipment-to-make-a-record-more-likely/)

They’ll have to put an asterisk next to it.

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**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/35 "2016-06-21T00:20:01Z")

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New record for the date (128 degrees) today at Badwater. Same in store for tomorrow, Tuesday.

> **[Badwater, CA Hourly Weather | AccuWeather](https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/badwater/92384/hourly-weather-forecast/2154856?day=1)**
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> Hourly weather forecast in Badwater, CA. Check current conditions in Badwater, CA with radar, hourly, and more.

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/36 "2016-06-21T02:28:34Z")

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It’s hotter than a snakes ass in a wheel rut.

–Robin Williams channeling Walter Cronkite (“Good Morning, Vietnam”)

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/37 "2016-06-21T02:30:16Z")

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It was only 110 today in Baker, home of the [world’s tallest thermometer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_tallest_thermometer). The record it commemorates remains intact.

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/38 "2016-06-21T02:36:21Z")

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You should see the size of the butt that’s supposed to go into! 😃

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/39 "2016-06-21T09:39:40Z")

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Is that in Fahrenheit or Celsius? I’m guessing •F?

I live in the UK, and today feels like our first good day, as its been miserable recently! Possibly going to get 25 degrees C, which is better than the miserable 15 degrees C that we have recently had!

What that equates to in degrees F, I really dont know.

I’m guessing that 121 F must be in excess of 45 C… Which is unbearable for me!

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**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-15-pm-still-121-degrees-at-badwater/756535/40 "2016-06-21T13:54:53Z")

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> [@heartsplayer](#):
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> Is that in Fahrenheit or Celsius? I’m guessing •F?
> 
> I live in the UK, and today feels like our first good day, as its been miserable recently! Possibly going to get 25 degrees C, which is better than the miserable 15 degrees C that we have recently had!
> 
> What that equates to in degrees F, I really dont know.
> 
> I’m guessing that 121 F must be in excess of 45 C… Which is unbearable for me!

128 F = 53.3 C

32 F = 0 C  
50 F = 10 C  
68 F = 20 C  
86 F = 30 C  
104 F = 40 C  
122 F = 50 C

Starting at “Freezing”, adding 10 degrees to C means you have to add 18 degrees to F.

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