# 6 January 2021; A Day worth a Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 6, 2021, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770 "2021-01-06T04:30:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/643 "2021-01-06T23:03:05Z")

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I wonder if the army is trying to keep itself as far away from Trump as possible. I could totally see them trying to avoid:

General: Sir, do we have permission to deploy the national guard?  
Trump: Yes, AND ARREST ALL DEMOCRATS!

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/644 "2021-01-06T23:03:11Z")

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Agreed, I’d call them protesters and I think they should be arrested.

~Max

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/645 "2021-01-06T23:03:38Z")

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Remember when Adam Schiff was giving his closing arguments for the impeachment trial? He said that the Republicans were saying that there would be an election within a year, that we should let the American people decide, and besides, how much damage can he really do by then… and Schiff said “a lot. A lot of damage.”

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/646 "2021-01-06T23:03:41Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> These people “storming” the capitol are not insurgents, or rebels or protesters or freedom fighters or whatever you may want to call them  
> They’re **toddlers**. Toddlers pitching a fit. Noting more. And as anyone who’s had to deal with a toddler pitching a fit knows the best thing to do is nothing. Just let them scream and kick and cry. Eventually, they’ll tire themselves out and you can take them home and put them to bed.
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> These little children aren’t a threat to our democracy, they won’t stop anything. By Taking them seriously you only give them legitimacy.

You may be right about their emotional maturity, but they _stormed the fucking US Capitol by force._ That’s open rebellion. How is that not a threat to our democracy?

I would have been fine with gunning them down en masse.

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**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/647 "2021-01-06T23:03:47Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> These little children aren’t a threat to our democracy, they won’t stop anything.

We can’t normalize the idea that violence can stop lawmaking (witness the Pennsylvania state fracas yesterday). If they were occupying a university building or something I’d agree with you.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/648 "2021-01-06T23:04:40Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> There is a systemic bias in policing towards favoring right wing nutjobs.

> **[White supremacists and militias have infiltrated police across US, report says](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/27/white-supremacists-militias-infiltrate-us-police-report)**
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> A former FBI agent has documented links between serving officers and racist militant activities in more than a dozen states

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/649 "2021-01-06T23:04:55Z")

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> No VP if Pelosi becomes acting president.

Or at least, AFAICT nothing in the operating language about that situation (25th Amendment and Succession Act) explicitly requires that the Acting POTUS has to designate an Acting Veep (The Succession Act was passed before the 25th so it did not contemplate a replacement for the VP _at all_, instead reverting to the historic pattern of whoever’s next and still alive and qualified). As previously discussed the Succession Act and the 25th have some “well, but how likely is THAT to ever happen” disconnects but that would be the _least_ of our problems.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/650 "2021-01-06T23:05:28Z")

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I will celebrate it. Good.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/651 "2021-01-06T23:05:29Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> I keep reading “Where’s the police? Where’s the police?”  
> Fuck the police! The only thing the police is gonna do is make things worse. How? Oh, I don’t know maybe by shooting someone in the chest.
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> These people “storming” the capitol are not insurgents, or rebels or protesters or freedom fighters or whatever you may want to call them  
> They’re **toddlers**. Toddlers pitching a fit. Nothing more. And as anyone who’s had to deal with a toddler pitching a fit knows the best thing to do is nothing. Just let them scream and kick and cry. Eventually, they’ll tire themselves out and you can take them home and put them to bed.
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> These little children aren’t a threat to our democracy, they won’t stop anything. By Taking them seriously you only give them legitimacy.
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> Ultimately, who cares what they do or where they do it. Y’all need to put your pearls down and get over it.

Absolutely not. NO. This post is 100% wrong. It is also _dangerously_ wrong.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/652 "2021-01-06T23:06:51Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> They’re **toddlers**. Toddlers pitching a fit. Noting more. And as anyone who’s had to deal with a toddler pitching a fit knows the best thing to do is nothing. Just let them scream and kick and cry. Eventually, they’ll tire themselves out and you can take them home and put them to bed.

I agreed with this for a while today, until some of them actually entered the senate and house chambers. I can’t exactly explain why, but that was when I went from “don’t give them the publicity they crave; and they’re too cowardly to do anything truly dangerous” … to … “Law enforcement must round up every one of these fuckers and the court must throw the book at them — hundreds will spend many years in jail, and it’s possible several of them will face capital punishment.”

They MUST be made an example of. Otherwise, it will just keep happening.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/653 "2021-01-06T23:07:27Z")

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Pictures of rioters climbing the walls around the Capitol There’s already a meme about how much good walls can do.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/654 "2021-01-06T23:07:58Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> You seem to be treating the media and Democrats as the same thing, and saying things “will happen” that contradict things that have already happened–both groups have already called this insurrection and Dems are pushing right now for articles of impeachment. It’s rather weird in general to attack people for what you assume they will do, anyways.

To little too late. And dollars to donuts, these limp “calls” will amount to nothing. No one will be imprisoned, no one will be impeached, no one will be censured. Business as usual.

I fucking sick of being the party of pussies.

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/655 "2021-01-06T23:08:45Z")

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We’ll see who’s wrong.  
The Joint session of Congress has said that nothing that happened today will stopp them from doing their job.  
These people accomplished only one thing today. Riling up the media

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/656 "2021-01-06T23:09:06Z")

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Trump’s latest tweet (saw it on NBC so can’t link to it) is possibly the most sickening thing I’ve ever seen. It basically celebrates what happened today with no rebuke or regret whatsoever.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/657 "2021-01-06T23:09:13Z")

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Does anyone know what directions Trump gave the crowd at the rally?

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/658 "2021-01-06T23:09:34Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> So is the Senate truly split then? No majority leader, or would McConnell keep it by default?

I’m not sure. I haven’t gotten that far on lawyer Twitter! Ideally that situation wouldn’t last too long.

> [@DCnDC](#):
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> WP story says it was the Capitol Police.

I wonder why? They didn’t seem to feel that the rioters were of much concern.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/659 "2021-01-06T23:09:35Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> If there was a left wing equivalent to this - if Trump won the election and left wing people stormed the capitol in exactly this same way - do you guys agree that the police would be shooting, gassing, and beating them, and that there would be mass arrests?

No, there’d be internment camps and firing squads. It’d be Tiananmen Square.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/660 "2021-01-06T23:11:07Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> I would have been fine with gunning them down en masse.

I wouldn’t have, but quite frankly if that happened, a lot less of them would show up in the future. I bet they like having a martyr for their cause, but few of them want to die a martyr’s death.

The Capitol was the obvious target of the protest. The Capitol police should have had nearly all the exits locked and chained, and been ready to secure the few remaining exits in a hurry if need be. How that didn’t happen is beyond me. There should not have been a mass invasion of the building.

Once there was, though, surely there’s a P.A. system. Announcements could have been made that protesters had X minutes to clear the building; after that, the police would use force to expel any remaining protesters. After that point, shoot if need be.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/661 "2021-01-06T23:11:08Z")

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I’ve been giving 30-50% odds on 25A before Jan 20th for some time now, although I don’t recall if I posted that on the SDMB. I think it’s pushing past 50% now.

I realize predicting 50% odds of anything is weaseling- how can you lose? But a breech on the Capitol today was one of the requirements for a 25A/quick impeachment and removal scenario. Another prediction I made but didn’t post here was that protesters would breech the Capitol (that one was a certainty once the GA senate results came through) -although I didn’t think it would happen until after dark.

Now, if after today, Trump starts tweeting stuff like “Joe Biden must be prevented by taking office by any means necessary “ …I don’t think it’s a stretch to think we could get 17 Republican senators willing to prevent civil war.

The only catch, and the reason I’m only at 50%- is that a quick removal not go to far in preventing civil war…that will really piss off the insurgents.

If I’ve ninjaed anyone, I apologize. I was out this afternoon and I haven’t been able to catch up with the thread, but I needed to write, it’s an outlet.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/662 "2021-01-06T23:11:26Z")

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Here you go.

[https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1346954970910707712](https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1346954970910707712)

It’s 100% mafia-boss phrasing. Rile up the troops about the injustice to your family, then wink and shrug and adjourn the meeting.

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