# 6 January 2021; A Day worth a Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 6, 2021, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770 "2021-01-06T04:30:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1023 "2021-01-07T02:47:32Z")

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On MSNBC a pretty good exchange between Hayes and Maddow about the absurdity of the fact that Congress is pontificating instead of addressing the madman with the keys to the military. Also that the police arrested nobody and they traitors are home bragging about their exploits.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1024 "2021-01-07T02:47:39Z")

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> [@Chingon](#):
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> Because Mitch isn’t stupid.

From my perspective, what you are claiming would be McConnell being stupid. It would be giving Trump a foothold.

> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> McConnell understands that sometimes some in his party need political cover and may have to stray from the party-line. We have seen the likes of Senator Susan Collins voting against party lines with no repercussions. I would be willing to bet that was discussed closely and she got his blessing once he knew it didn’t matter how she voted.

Voting against party lines is different. There wasn’t a power struggle then. This is McConnell vs. Trump.

And, as others have shown, he could just as easily have said he was going to object but won’t anymore. They got their cover from the insurrection, so that argument is out.

I see no reason he wouldn’t punish anyone who continues to hold water for the guy who is challenging him for control of the Republican party. That is what this is.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1025 "2021-01-07T02:47:42Z")

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> [@Dr.Colossus](#):
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> It seems laid bare that most of American governance is a system of trust built on decorum and norms

As a point of order, it is a system of **mis** trust built on decorum and norms.  
And the fabled checks and balances if the Founding Fathers haven’t stood up that well either.

And when people argue that the US presidential system is one of the USA’s most dangerous exports because of it’s inherent tendency to deadlock, you can see just how easy it is to unravel.

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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1026 "2021-01-07T02:49:37Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> On MSNBC a pretty good exchange between Hayes and Maddow about the absurdity of the fact that Congress is pontificating instead of addressing the madman with the keys to the military.

I like what congress is doing right now. The mob tried to disrupt the vote; I think it’s important that they finish it first.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1027 "2021-01-07T02:50:27Z")

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Pence is getting a lot of love for doing his job.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1028 "2021-01-07T02:50:30Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> And, as others have shown, he could just as easily have said he was going to object but won’t anymore. They got their cover from the insurrection, so that argument is out.

I dunno. If your support is mostly from the deeply red people who cheered the insurrection then you need to go with that.

I do not know whether he is a loon on his own or if he read the electoral tea leaves and felt he had to throw his base raw meat even now.

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1029 "2021-01-07T02:50:31Z")

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Has Pompeo weighed in yet? I tried Google and didn’t see anything.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1030 "2021-01-07T02:51:08Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Sorry, I don’t have a link, but I saw on Twitter

And if you can’t trust Twittter, who can you trust?

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1031 "2021-01-07T02:51:11Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Also that the police arrested nobody…

> **[5 weapons recovered, 13 arrests at D.C. protests](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/5-weapons-recovered-13-arrests-at-d-c-protests)**
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> The Washington, D.C., police chief says at least five weapons have been recovered and at least 13 people have been arrested so far in pro-Trump protests.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1032 "2021-01-07T02:51:57Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1347010363372548097>

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1033 "2021-01-07T02:52:06Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Pence is getting a lot of love for doing his job.

First time in 4 years he dared to do his job. Hey, maybe he’ll get to be president for a couple weeks.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1034 "2021-01-07T02:52:26Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Is this a one-liner, or am I missing something?

His wife, Elaine Chao, is currently secretary of transportation.

~Max, who should read the rest of the thread before posting.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1035 "2021-01-07T02:52:32Z")

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Trump and his terrorists can go a lot of damage while these blowhards are getting their 5 minutes.

Yes, Congress should certify the results. It should take 5 minutes total and be done by assent. Every self-aggrandizing word spoken is time wasted, fiddling while Washington burns. And any words in opposition to that are sedition and should be punishable by death.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1036 "2021-01-07T02:53:28Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> the police arrested nobody and they traitors are home bragging about their exploits.

[John McEnroe] You cannot be serious! They just let them walk out?

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1037 "2021-01-07T02:54:04Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> First time in 4 years he dared to do his job. Hey, maybe he’ll get to be president for a couple weeks.

To be fair, his only job is to cast the tie breaking vote in the Senate.

Well, and maybe protect the space-time continuum.

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1038 "2021-01-07T02:54:13Z")

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George Will has a column out tonight that opens with:

_“The three repulsive architects of Wednesday’s heartbreaking spectacle — mobs desecrating the Republic’s noblest building and preventing the completion of a constitutional process — must be named and forevermore shunned. They are Donald Trump, and Sens. Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz.”_

Remember when this guy was Mr. Republican?

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1039 "2021-01-07T02:54:45Z")

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Can McConnell simply refuse to give any of the traitors any time to talk if they object to another state?

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1040 "2021-01-07T02:55:16Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> First time in 4 years he dared to do his job.

To be fair, VPs have precious few official duties. Mostly they have to go where the president sends them to do shit the president doesn’t want to.

Unless you are Dick Cheney in which case you are the power behind the throne.

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1041 "2021-01-07T02:55:44Z")

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Lindsey Graham is now rejecting this as a ‘bad idea’. Old Lindsey is running out of faces to show…

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1042 "2021-01-07T02:56:12Z")

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I’m sure Trump managed to install loyalists in high positions in the Capitol Police. The White Hoyse has been very busy installing loyalists throughout.

And I think they are biased and believed the bullshit about how all right-wingers protesters are inherently peaceful because they are the party of tolerance and love, you know…Trump’s Opposite Day routine.

I said a couple of weeks ago that there was a chance Trump would be removed from office before Jan 20th, and everyone thought I was being dramatic. But I don’t think we are there yet. Now if Trump tries to organize another million MAGA event in DC on Inauguration Day, someone will have to act somehow. Oh, who am I kidding, they still probably won’t care.

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