# 6 January 2021; A Day worth a Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 6, 2021, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770 "2021-01-06T04:30:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1083 "2021-01-07T03:15:08Z")
Loeffler remains senator until her replacement comes in, since she was an interim appointment. The other Georgia seat is empty. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1084 "2021-01-07T03:15:28Z")
Oh, now that the Democrats have the trifecta, Republicans are going to be all in for unity and compromise. Frack those spineless seawards. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1085 "2021-01-07T03:15:39Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Cruz, Hawley, Hyde-Smith, Kennedy, Lummis, Marshall, Tuberville are the ayes. Seven out of the original fourteen who were planning on doings so this moring. Kennedy is up in 2022 in Louisiana – a state that reelected its Democratic Governor in 2019. Jon Bel Edwards for Senate? ---
**Author:** ![Olfatbut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a183cd/32.png) [@Olfatbut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olfatbut)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1086 "2021-01-07T03:15:52Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > want credit? nah the honor is mine! ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1087 "2021-01-07T03:15:53Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Cruz, Hawley, Hyde-Smith, Kennedy, Lummis, Marshall, Tuberville are the ayes. Seven out of the original fourteen who were planning on doings so this moring. I was wrong about Lummis. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1088 "2021-01-07T03:15:56Z")
Loeffler was already a sitting sentator, so Ossoff was the only missing vote. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1089 "2021-01-07T03:16:04Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Did someone abstain? > And shouldn’t there only be 98 Senators since it is the new session and both of Georgia’s hasn’t been certified yet? Loeffler is still in due to being appointed to serve out a term. Ossoff is the missing vote as he hasn’t yet been certified to replace Perdue. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1090 "2021-01-07T03:16:55Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Sooo…can Pence legally do that? > > I mean, I get if Trump is AWOL in his own head and Pence feels the need to stop something bad from happening but it remains…can he (the VP) do that? > > I am unclear… YOU’RE unclear?? Ha- join the club! 🙄 The article says “It was unclear why Mr. Trump, who is still technically the commander in chief, did not give the order.” Maybe trump was using the toidy. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1091 "2021-01-07T03:17:05Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Trump rebuffed initial requests to deploy the National Guard to the Capitol. Pence gave the go-ahead. This is just . . . astounding. Pence _overrode_ Trump on deploying the National Guard? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1092 "2021-01-07T03:18:48Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > During these conversations, the president conveyed to the acting secretary that he should take any necessary steps to support civilian law enforcement requests in securing the Capitol and federal buildings.” This is the important bit: In other words, Trump delegated (ducked the decision) which would probably make it legal. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1093 "2021-01-07T03:19:35Z")
“Overrode” implies that trump gave an order and Pence countermanded it. What I quoted from the article seems to say that trump did not give any orders one way or the other and Pence stepped into the vacuum. ETA. Yeah, what **Princhester** said. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1094 "2021-01-07T03:19:47Z")
The Cabinet consists entirely of sycophants, co-conspirators, morons and Acting Morons. The 25th is a non starter. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1095 "2021-01-07T03:19:58Z")
Yup. Legal authority was through acting secretary of Defense, regardless of whoever was _really_ calling the shots. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jungian_camisole1/32/3646_2.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole1)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1096 "2021-01-07T03:20:44Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > This is just . . . astounding. Pence _overrode_ Trump on deploying the National Guard? As I said earlier, perhaps The Amendment Which Will Not Speak Its name has been invoked without announcement. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1097 "2021-01-07T03:20:46Z")
Trump managed to completely screw up again…he could have let this carry on for 4-5 states and a couple of days, but instead he let the mob go and lost most of his Senate support (the House, who knows) and maybe the whole thing will be done tonight. Once again, his brillance in politics shines through (yes, that was sarcasm). ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1098 "2021-01-07T03:22:12Z")
That’s what happens when you have a 10-minute attention span. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1099 "2021-01-07T03:22:46Z")
I mean, apparently Trump was aware that a request to deploy the Guard was requested and he did not give that order. That’s a decision in itself. Maybe “overrode” is too strong, but Pence clearly exceeded his authority. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1100 "2021-01-07T03:23:59Z")
The dead woman has been identified after her next of kin was notified. 14-year USAF veteran; never got the memo that veterans don’t like Trump. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1101 "2021-01-07T03:24:40Z")
Pretty sure some esteemed Roman Senator wrote such when Sulla was busy attacking Rome. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1102 "2021-01-07T03:24:53Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Maybe “overrode” is too strong, but Pence clearly exceeded his authority. My understanding is that they were deployed under the authorization of the Sec of Def, and Pence simply managed the details of that deployment. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770.md?page=54) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770.md?page=56)