# 6 January 2021; A Day worth a Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 6, 2021, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770 "2021-01-06T04:30:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1223 "2021-01-07T04:52:00Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> CNN said that they expect the next and only one to be PA.

Not Wisconsin?

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1224 "2021-01-07T04:52:39Z")

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CSPAN youtube must be on delay, they just did Delaware

Brian

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1225 "2021-01-07T04:53:13Z")

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It is done alphabetically.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1226 "2021-01-07T04:54:37Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Not Wisconsin?

By that point, in the alphabetical count, Biden will already be over 270 electoral votes, so it’d be even less effective than the other ineffective challenges.

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**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1227 "2021-01-07T04:55:01Z")

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Wisconsin would be 100% unadulterated grandstanding, since Biden would have enough votes by the time they got to it. Which means of course they’ll still object.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1228 "2021-01-07T04:55:06Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Ha! They didn’t get any Senators to sign on to the Georgia objection.

Loeffler was the only one who would have.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1229 "2021-01-07T04:55:16Z")

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It’s actually about 500+ more deaths.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1230 "2021-01-07T04:55:22Z")

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Hawley specifically said he had problems with PA so he feels committed to raising the objection. But apparently he’s not going to speak against the electors and they’re going to go straight to a vote in the Senate.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1231 "2021-01-07T04:55:24Z")

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Georgia’s not on anybody’s mind?

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**Author:** ![CoconutPete](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coconutpete/32/5294_2.png) [@CoconutPete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoconutPete)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1232 "2021-01-07T04:56:34Z")

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It’s on Hoagy Carmichael’s mind, certainly.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1233 "2021-01-07T04:57:33Z")

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Brit Hume tweeted that it will probably turn out that the riots were caused by antifa.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1234 "2021-01-07T04:57:50Z")

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Did I hear that correctly? Did Pence just get a faithless elector vote?

ETA: sorry - that was Maine. split votes.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1235 "2021-01-07T04:58:19Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Did I hear that correctly? Did Pence just get a faithless elector vote?

Maine votes by Congressional district rather than the whole state. There’s almost always one Republican elector.  
Nebraska does the same thing, and there’s almost always one Democratic elector.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1236 "2021-01-07T04:59:29Z")

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> [@Mike\_Mabes](#):
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> Had no idea there was a plot to tie up members of the House and have a show trial. I don’t know what the fuck their plan was after that except that Trump’s troops would come in to support them.

what? cite?

~Max

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1237 "2021-01-07T04:59:45Z")

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Objection to Michigan.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1238 "2021-01-07T04:59:59Z")

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It was until today. What a fucking day. Got up only hoping to see certainty that we won Georgia. An excuse to call up the Great Ray Charles.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1239 "2021-01-07T05:00:02Z")

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Seems to me this objection thing is nearly as dicey as asking if anyone objects at a wedding.

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**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1240 "2021-01-07T05:00:40Z")

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“The objection cannot be entertained.” -MI

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1241 "2021-01-07T05:00:43Z")

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Hahaha objection DENIED

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1242 "2021-01-07T05:00:49Z")

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History is littered with smart demagogue-dictators who took power despite their predecessors being punished. If they get their hands on the levers of power they don’t say “gee I better not do anything criminal because I might be punished when I lose the next election”. They just make sure there is no next election (that they can lose).

Look at any failed state. Once the cycle starts, the stakes of losing office become so high no one ever goes voluntarily, which means they don’t go except involuntarily and then the price they pay is so high that the next guy is even more determined never to lose office. And so it goes.

The reason Trump will probably leave the White House quasi-voluntarily and the change of power will be essentially peaceful is precisely because Trump thinks he can blag his way out of anything and is too stupid to know that may not be true. If he and his enablers knew that the last assholes that did what they have done ended up in the electric chair or jailed for life, the only way they would be leaving would be at the point of a gun. Or in a box.

Don’t get get me wrong I know where you are coming from, but the fascism horse is very close to the door of the US democracy stable. And a clumsy attempt to shoo it back in may just end up causing it to bolt.

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