# 6 January 2021; A Day worth a Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 6, 2021, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770 "2021-01-06T04:30:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 70
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1384 "2021-01-07T06:39:47Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Again…look at the video. I have mixed feelings about personally reviewing the video. Talking about it is fine, but watching it is something else. ☹ So I’ll leave off her shooting from here on out. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1385 "2021-01-07T06:40:05Z")
Agree with accident. The cops looked shaken and many were looking toward/after the woman’s situation after instead of at the protesters. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1386 "2021-01-07T06:40:21Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Too soon to make any final judgments, but MSNBC played a couple of cell phone videos that showed individuals clearly noted to be ‘Capitol Police’ simply standing aside and inviting the rioters into the Capitol building. More than one police appeared to be complicit. Here’s what [Politico](https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/06/how-capitol-hill-riots-started-455654) has to say: > The small contingent of Capitol police — once cheerfully guarding the entrance and politely pointing Trump supporters to the bathrooms — was soon overwhelmed by waves of flag-bearing protesters. Though they’d earlier thanked the officers for their service, the crowd began to turn on the police. Crowds began gathering around officers, demanding that they let them into the streets, up the lawn, onto the balconies. I’m in no way defending the Capitol Police and don’t doubt some of them were/are Trumpsters, but if the cell phone videos were shot before the Trumpsters stormed the building, that wouldn’t in itself mean much. The Politico article is well worth a quick read. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1387 "2021-01-07T06:41:03Z")
S. E. Cupp, conservative writer, being snarky tonight. One of CNN’s analysts said Josh Hawley should be censured, and she said “That’ll show him.” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1388 "2021-01-07T06:42:42Z")
Chris Cuomo can shove it. He’s advocating for the Democrats to “accommodate” the rioters. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1389 "2021-01-07T06:44:00Z")
one cop panicked? It’s amazing more people weren’t shot. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1390 "2021-01-07T06:45:15Z")
Amazingly, police are able to use restraint when they are being threatened by white people. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1391 "2021-01-07T06:50:41Z")
What’s going on in the House? I hear that members are shouting at each other and threatening each other. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1392 "2021-01-07T06:51:20Z")
Fair enough but then you will have to take my word for it. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1393 "2021-01-07T06:52:12Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Again…look at the video. There were loads of people packed in there. > > If the Capitol Police felt they were in danger and had to start shooting then why only one shot and only that woman in the middle of the crowd? > > It makes no sense to me unless it was an accident or she was his ex-wife/GF/lover/drill sergeant. Your link included another angle, and she doesn’t appear to me to be in the middle of the crowd, but to be very near the door they were breaking through. If she was the first person to try and go through the broken glass, and all the rest stayed behind the door, that would explain it. [https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/video-shows-moment-ashli-babbit-was-fatally-shot-in-capitol/](https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/video-shows-moment-ashli-babbit-was-fatally-shot-in-capitol/) ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1394 "2021-01-07T06:52:40Z")
Honestly it seems when they mean to shoot it is a hail of bullets. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1395 "2021-01-07T06:58:17Z")
Here’s the details. > **[Pence announces Biden's victory after Congress completes electoral count](https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/electoral-college-vote-count-biden-victory/)** > > Chaos erupted inside the U.S. Capitol as thousands of pro-Trump demonstrators charged the complex. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1396 "2021-01-07T07:00:38Z")
Turns out that Democrat Conor Lamb called the Republicans who are objecting liars, and one of them took issue. Such snowflakes. > ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1397 "2021-01-07T07:13:49Z")
I’m pretty sure Andy Harris (R-MD) was shouting “he called me a liar!” Griffith wasn’t the one Pelosi booted, because he asked another question after. (‘when is the right time to raise a point of order?’ ‘immediately, you are late’) ~Max ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1398 "2021-01-07T07:14:01Z")
I see I’m not alone in not watching, getting info from other sources. I watched a lot of the Senate stuff, but I found it hard to listen to any of the objectors in the House. But, in case someone didn’t know, here’s a link to the House: [Joint Session of Congress for Counting of Electoral College Ballots - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzWS7gJX5Z8)   Currently some Republican non-objector calling out his brethren right now, though. He’s saying they care more about spectacle and think they can rewrite reality by repeating things that are false. Then he yielded to another Republican who is saying we need to follow the Constitution, and is arguing States Rights. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1399 "2021-01-07T07:14:56Z")
Also available from [https://live.house.gov/](https://live.house.gov/) ~Max ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1400 "2021-01-07T07:20:18Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > Also available from > [https://live.house.gov/](https://live.house.gov/) > > ~Max I tend to find YouTube works better than most other video players out there, as it’s designed for all the viewers and the bandwidth. In this case, I see nothing but a blank page with some tabs when I check your link, and no buttons work. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1401 "2021-01-07T07:22:57Z")
Who would have thought the gentleman from Pennsylvania would be the most ardent objector to Pennsylvania’s vote count? ~Max ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1402 "2021-01-07T07:25:21Z")
Florida guy is just lying. States setting election laws does not mean state _legislatures_ set the voting law. Plus all legislatures can delegate any responsibility they want to others, as effectively they are just tacitly voting to approve it. He should know this, as the US Congress has done this several times. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1403 "2021-01-07T07:27:15Z")
How about the fact that she was an idiot? Oh, let’s storm the Capitol. I’ll be surrounded by people who think like me. Oh, shit! Why are they ducking? Let’s leap through the window. Move on. Common sense should’ve prevailed, but not in her case. So, moving on, can we at least finish the ECs? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770.md?page=69) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770.md?page=71)