# 6 January 2021; A Day worth a Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 6, 2021, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770 "2021-01-06T04:30:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1444 "2021-01-07T08:16:35Z")

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It’s standard procedure to ask for a numeric count on any significant vote. Normally it wouldn’t take an hour but they’re voting in shifts due to the pandemic.

~Max

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1445 "2021-01-07T08:16:50Z")

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Aw. Recognizing staff that’s moving on up to the Biden  
Administration. Wish I knew how to spell her name so I could look her up easily.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1446 "2021-01-07T08:17:48Z")

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> **[Shuwanza Goff](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuwanza_Goff)**
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> Shuwanza Goff is an American political advisor serving as the deputy director of the White House Office of Legislative Affairs. In January 2019, she was named floor director for legislative operations for Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, making her the first African-American woman to serve as floor director.
> Shuwanza Goff lived in New York City, alongside her sister April, as a child. Her parents are Robert and Hershular Smith-Goff. In the 1990s, ...

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1447 "2021-01-07T08:22:55Z")

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That’s weird that they just trailed off on that vote without making an accounting.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1448 "2021-01-07T08:24:06Z")

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Here they come. Pence is at the chair.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1449 "2021-01-07T08:24:41Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> It’s not clear to the extent that this mob was armed. I think most of them were unarmed.

Do you think soldiers would be nicer to an unarmed mob overrunning their base?

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1450 "2021-01-07T08:27:46Z")

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except that Israel and Palestine are actually at war.  
She was an unarmed American citizen in a public building. She should not have been killed!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1451 "2021-01-07T08:28:50Z")

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Pence’s chief of staff has been denied entry into the White House.

> <https://twitter.com/PhilipWegmann/status/1347038054054309888>
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> Henry Rodgers @henryrodgersdc

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1452 "2021-01-07T08:29:14Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> She was an unarmed American citizen in a public building. She should not have been killed!

She was a threat. Threats get shot.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1453 "2021-01-07T08:30:00Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> except that Israel and Palestine are actually at war.

wait, what?

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1454 "2021-01-07T08:30:50Z")

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An unarmed person is never a threat to an armed one. Never.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1455 "2021-01-07T08:32:00Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Do you think soldiers would be nicer to an unarmed mob overrunning their base?

IMO the top priority in this case should have been preservation of human life; however, there were VIPs to evacuate first.

~Max

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1456 "2021-01-07T08:32:27Z")

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Come on Vermont. Push it over the edge.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1457 "2021-01-07T08:33:21Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> An unarmed person is never a threat to an armed one. Never.

First of all, an unarmed person on their own may not be a threat, but an unarmed person at the head of a mob definitely is. Second of all, an armed person who doesn’t use their weapon is effectively unarmed, and an unarmed person can be a threat to another unarmed person.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1458 "2021-01-07T08:33:27Z")

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271 votes

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1459 "2021-01-07T08:34:38Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> IMO the top priority in this case should have been preservation of human life; however, there were VIPs to evacuate.

There were VIPs right in the hall beyond the window; they shot her to protect them.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1460 "2021-01-07T08:36:26Z")

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Louie Gohmert objecting to Wisconsin.

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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1461 "2021-01-07T08:36:44Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> An unarmed person is never a threat to an armed one. Never.

Crap. She was foremost member of a whole violent mob trying to break through those doors, in an attempt to subvert democratic government, and she ignored repeated warnings.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1462 "2021-01-07T08:37:19Z")

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Also, it’s perfectly legitimate to shoot people to protect government property. If I were protecting, say, a strategic radar installation, and an armed mob rushed in and tried to tear it apart with their hands, damn right I’d shoot them.

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1463 "2021-01-07T08:38:48Z")

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> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> she ignored repeated warnings

thats what every cop says about every shooting. Not listening should not be a capital offense.

> [@Alessan](#):
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> it’s perfectly legitimate to shoot people to protect government property.

property is worth more than human life to you?

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