# 6 January 2021; A Day worth a Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 6, 2021, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770 "2021-01-06T04:30:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 79
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1565 "2021-01-07T13:59:17Z")
There _were_ around 75 million killed in WWII, on all sides. But I seriously doubt that that had anything to do with the message that the shirt meant to send. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1566 "2021-01-07T14:00:28Z")
No. It’s to point out that the Nazis killed a hell of a lot people than just the Jewish victims of the Holocaust so the message in that shirt rather misses the forest for the trees, if you think the Nazis were not all that bad since they killed only 6 million. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1567 "2021-01-07T14:00:40Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Maybe you could explain to the class exactly what message that t-shirt is expressing? Just to short-circuit this: it’s an antisemitic reference. Six million Jews killed in WWII wasn’t enough. Okay. Geez, y’all are getting nasty this morning… yeah, tensions are high but after getting through that harrowing day/night, let’s not turn on each other. > [@AK84](#): > > No. It’s to point out that the Nazis killed a hell of a lot people than just the Jewish victims of the Holocaust so the message in that shirt rather misses the forest for the trees, if you think the Nazis were not all that bad since they killed only 6 million. And that’s true, too. ENOUGH!! 😠 Bracing myself for “junior modding” handslap. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1568 "2021-01-07T14:01:45Z")
A part of me hopes they come back for more games, only this time with the National Guard present so they can see what real soldiers are like. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1569 "2021-01-07T14:02:08Z")
I don’t think that the shirt indicated that Nazis were not all that bad since the only killed 6 million. I think that the point of the shirt was that they should have killed more. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1570 "2021-01-07T14:03:06Z")
I’m pretty sure this board has enough space for a thread debating the # killed in WW2. Not too sure this is the right thread for that debate. Just sayin’ as I’m wandering through… ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1571 "2021-01-07T14:03:30Z")
No part of me wishes for that. I just hope that everyone who can be identified as being a part of the insurrection is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1572 "2021-01-07T14:03:49Z")
n/m missed an earlier post ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1573 "2021-01-07T14:06:00Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > …When those scumbags stormed the capital and disrupted the legislature in Michigan last year and appeared to suffer few consequences, that no doubt emboldened them and others into thinking this kind of shit could be successful… Totally! They went in, armed to their ears, and suffered zero consequences. I asked at the time why they weren’t rounded up and thrown in jail, and the responses were that open-carry was allowed in MI, so they weren’t breaking any laws. That empowered them to try to kidnap the governor. And then, yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1574 "2021-01-07T14:06:24Z")
🤔 ---
**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1575 "2021-01-07T14:06:55Z")
I have been following this thread, although I have not read every post. Now that it has deteriorated into a discussion on the meaning of an anti-Semitic slogan on a T-shirt I will leave. Godwin’s law should apply. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1576 "2021-01-07T14:07:07Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I just hope that everyone who can be identified as being a part of the insurrection is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I actually hope it becomes a hobby on social media to ID all of the people filmed/photographed storming the Capitol and reporting them to the authorities. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1577 "2021-01-07T14:12:23Z")
These people have a dominant-authoritarian psychological orientation. This is why they did what they did yesterday: they sincerely believe that they can use aggression as an advantage over people who are more “agreeable.” They have to be shown, somehow and some way, that their aggression will only result in pain. Their aggression has to have a tangible, realizable cost to them, or they will continue to use their aggression, and worse, they will escalate. This is not over, which is why, quite some time ago, I posted that there will come a point in time when people who are reading this, who presumably expect and desire to live in a society with certain values they’ve grown accustomed to, will be forced to decide what price they are willing to pay to continue living in such a society. It’s a serious matter/question. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1578 "2021-01-07T14:19:49Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > What name do you guys think this will be given? “1/6” is too bland, but I’m not sure what short and pithy phrase we’ll be referring to this event by in a month or two. The Epiphany. Same as always. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1579 "2021-01-07T14:20:58Z")
> [@bob\_2](#): > > Godwin’s law should apply. 🙄 Godwin’s law is about the inevitability of comparing something to Nazis or to Hitler. Godwin’s law does not apply when the subject of discussion is identifying themself as a Nazi supporter. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1580 "2021-01-07T14:21:54Z")
That’s why I think that they should be prosecuted as insurrectionists. I just am hoping that it does not involve further attacks on our Capitol or other government institutions to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1581 "2021-01-07T14:22:35Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > This is why they did what they did yesterday: they sincerely believe that they can use aggression as an advantage over people who are more “agreeable.” They have to be shown, somehow and some way, that their aggression will only result in pain. Their aggression has to have a tangible, realizable cost to them, or they will continue to use their aggression, and worse, they will escalate. Yes, and the window to do something is small. There was a thread, I can’t seem to find it now, that asked what the Trumpistas will do after Trump is out of office. Most felt that it was a cult of personality and they would just follow Trump to Parler and whatever shitty media channel he cooks up. But since QAnon, and especially now, I feel that the lunatic CT faction brought together, turns out to be more virulent than anyone anticipated, and I think it will just mutate and follow whoever or whatever energizes the group most. If there’s not significant pushback now, it will be worse next time. Sorry if this is too much of a tangent. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1582 "2021-01-07T14:22:58Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Just fucking vote already. You (representatives in this case) should be crystal clear about their votes before walking into the chamber. They have ample time to make deals before they go in. Once the vote is called they have a minute to register their vote…maybe play Jeopardy music to count it down. The job of the legislature is to talk. We see the alternative. Let them talk. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1583 "2021-01-07T14:23:57Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > The job of the legislature is to talk. We see the alternative. Let them talk. They can talk all they want. I am suggesting that once the vote is called just be done with it. We see studio audiences on TV vote for this or that all the time in less than a minute. Surely congress could do the same. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/1584 "2021-01-07T14:24:20Z")
I’ve decided on “Orange Wednesday” because it’s a dark day that’s worthy of some sort of name like that (like Black Monday) but it’s also slightly absurd. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770.md?page=78) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770.md?page=80)