# 61 hours of insanity: The final days of Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 18, 2021, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775 "2021-01-18T04:03:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/81 "2021-01-20T05:30:28Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Florida Man to pardon Steve Bannon. He’s up for some serious charges: [![](https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/theadvocate.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/d2/5d2d0c48-9a96-571b-ab50-22c6a95c9760/5f47ff308dfb3.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C884) ](https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/theadvocate.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/d2/5d2d0c48-9a96-571b-ab50-22c6a95c9760/5f47ff308dfb3.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C884) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/82 "2021-01-20T05:55:07Z")
[Florida Man pardons ex-Detroit mayor Kwame Kilpatrick.](https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2021/01/20/kwame-kilpatrick-pardoned-donald-trump-detroit-mayor/4217253001/) Crooked dirt-bags gotta stick together I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/83 "2021-01-20T06:50:30Z")
Politico has a good article that features [four biographers](https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/01/19/trump-exit-biographers-reflect-trumpology-460321) of Trump getting together to talk about what, if anything, surprised them about his presidency. And what they see in his future: **Kruse:** Is he capable of some sort of honest personal reckoning …? **Hurt:** No. **Blair:** No. **D’Antonio:** No. **O’Brien:** No way. **Kruse:** So there is no … **Hurt:** No. **O’Brien:** No. **Blair:** No. **Hurt:** Next question. ---
**Author:** ![opiewan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/opiewan/32/3566_2.png) [@opiewan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/opiewan)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/84 "2021-01-20T06:55:42Z")
As a lifelong metro Detroiter, I was disappointed to see this trending on Twitter, as Kwame’s grift is pretty legendary in a town full of legendary grifter politicians. However, on further reading, it looks like Trump _commuted_ Kwame’s sentence, as opposed to granting him a full pardon. So despite only serving a quarter of his sentence, the stain of having 14 or however many federal charges he ended up convicted on is still on his record. Also, I just read a blurb from the head FBI agent in the Detroit office who gleefully pointed out Kwame is still banned from serving in an elected office for 20 years from his conviction, which there’s still a bit over 13 years remaining on. So he’s got that going for him. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/85 "2021-01-20T13:23:43Z")
Made the mistake of turning on the TV in hopes of seeing DTS leave for the last time, and instead I’m watching him landing at Andrews AFB. Do his people still not know what “Fortunate Son” is about, do they just not care, or is someone having one last troll? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/86 "2021-01-20T13:26:21Z")
They’ve played it at numerous campaign events. Fogerty even [told them to stop](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/john-fogerty-cease-and-desist-order-trump-fortunate-son-1076914/), and they [ignored him](https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-10-30/john-fogerty-trump-fortunate-son). In other news: > ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/87 "2021-01-20T13:31:03Z")
I’ve been running around my house channeling Michael Scott’s\* farewell to Toby Flenderson - singing “Goodbye Trumpy” loudly and enthusiastically, to the tune of “Goodbye Stranger” “Trumpy’s going away!” \*Lead character in the American sitcom,The Office. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/88 "2021-01-20T13:50:06Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > Made the mistake of turning on the TV in hopes of seeing DTS leave for the last time, and instead I’m watching him landing at Andrews AFB. > > Do his people still not know what “Fortunate Son” is about, do they just not care, or is someone having one last troll? - “Y.M.C.A.” was playing as he boarded AF1. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/89 "2021-01-20T14:38:21Z")
Unsurprisingly, Trump overturned the one half-hearted measure he made as President to “drain the swamp.” At 1:00 last night, he rescinded his executive order that bans administration officials from lobbying for five years after they leave government. So they won’t have to worry about waiting to line up at the trough, if any lobbying firms will have them. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/90 "2021-01-20T15:38:18Z")
Before he spoke, the music was _Gloria_ (“all the voices in your head” “If everybody wants you, why isn’t anybody calling?”) then _Don’t Stop Believing_, famously a Bill Clinton campaign song. I think the DJ was punking Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/91 "2021-01-20T16:54:41Z")
Zero. 😁 😁 😁 😁 😁 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/92 "2021-01-20T17:07:17Z")
I dunno. He’s always had some interesting songs on his rally / campaign playlist - “You Can’t Always Get What You Want” and “Fortunate Son” among them. I always thought those reflected either extraordinary self-awareness or extraordinary cluelessness. I’m not sure which but I’m betting on the latter. ETA: my war with autocorrect continues. I know I make some boneheaded typos, which autocorrect forever assumes are real words, but changing self-awareness to elf-awareness? Really? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/93 "2021-01-20T18:19:42Z")
Of course, Helter Skelter, Gimme Shelter, and Sympathy for the Devil would be the most appropriate songs for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/94 "2021-01-20T18:56:05Z")
Very glad to see the Bonkersauce was of the very mild variety. Thank God that’s over. ---
**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/95 "2021-01-20T20:11:54Z")
Aaahhhh, time to stop four years of near-daily 538 presidential approval/disapproval checks. Trump got a little bit of a dead-cat bounce at the end of the final drop there, but final score Approve 38.6%, Disapprove 57.9%. Screenshotting the tracker for posterity. That 57.7% disapproval in the end even edged out Carter - greatest disapproval rating ever! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/96 "2021-01-20T21:59:02Z")
> [@squidfood](#): > > greatest disapproval rating ever! I hope they carve that on his tombstone. Relatively soon. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/97 "2024-10-29T18:55:03Z")
So, I wanted to bump this thread. I would have started a new thread, but the headline of this thread captures my thoughts pretty perfectly. We’re about 161 hours of insanity away from the final days of Trump, rather than 61 hours. The national nightmare of nine years is finally about to close. Sadly, Trump decided to run again, which subjected us to four more years of craziness from 2021-2024, but it is highly likely he won’t run again after his defeat next week, due to him being exhausted, due to even his supporters having their limits (even they wouldn’t stomach 4 consecutive presidential runs) and that Trump would be 82 years old and in utter physical/mental decline by 2028, given how bad he already appears now. So, after his defeat, what plays out for Trump next? He will likely fade away quietly from public consciousness while Vance takes over as the heir-apparent. Trump may still have power as some sort of kingmaker role within the GOP, but won’t be the king himself. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/98 "2024-10-29T19:17:43Z")
This thread reminded me of how happy we were when Biden won the last time. We thought we were home free and done with trump. I never expected we’d be back in that place-- only this time around it’s worse and he is worse. > [@Velocity](#): > > He will likely fade away quietly from public consciousness while Vance takes over as the heir-apparent. I don’t think he will fade away. He will be like that mold in the shower that you keep scrubbing with bleach until finally you’ve killed all the spores. Mold does not go willingly. And he will **NOT** let anyone become his heir. Vance doesn’t have the evil charisma of trump. Fortunately, I don’t think anyone can replace trump. Just like no one could replace Hitler (Germany’s defeat in WWII notwithstanding). IMHO he will keep holding rallies and spewing lies like some kind of government in exile. But I believe it will finally be safe to ignore him. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/99 "2024-10-29T19:29:07Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > He will likely fade away quietly from public consciousness while Vance takes over as the heir-apparent. I expect this prediction to go about as well as this one. [Ok fine, Trump is defeated. How long before another ranting demagogue shows up?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-fine-trump-is-defeated-how-long-before-another-ranting-demagogue-shows-up/761663/64) > [@Ok fine, Trump is defeated. How long before another ranting demagogue shows up?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-fine-trump-is-defeated-how-long-before-another-ranting-demagogue-shows-up/761663/64): > > > [@Ok fine, Trump is defeated. How long before another ranting demagogue shows up?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-fine-trump-is-defeated-how-long-before-another-ranting-demagogue-shows-up/761663/56): > > > > I think Trump will take the nomination again in 2020 > > Absolutely not. He’ll be 74, the RNC will hate his guts and have reformed the primary process to prevent any Trump-like candidate from ever leading an all-about-me-me-me uprising again, and even his own supporters will tire of him. ---
**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775/100 "2024-10-29T20:12:08Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > I expect this prediction to go about as well as this one. Yep, I’ll add : [Hillary would get 358 EV’s](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-results-prediction-thread/769319/14) and [Biden will coast to victory with 400 EV’s](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predictions-for-the-2020-us-presidential-election/922525/5). to that list. I’ve already promised the guy a profound and sincere apology for being repeatedly irritated at these pollyanna-rose-colored-glasses “it’s in the bag, don’t worry it’s over” predictions, if he’s right on this one. On the other hand if he’s wrong, then I want to keep him on retainer to pick football and basketball games for me the rest of the way, so I know who to bet against. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-hours-of-insanity-the-final-days-of-trump/930775.md?page=6)