# 61 people dead after stampede in Ivory Coast

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**Created:** [January 2, 2013, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-people-dead-after-stampede-in-ivory-coast/645790 "2013-01-02T01:34:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-people-dead-after-stampede-in-ivory-coast/645790/1 "2013-01-02T01:34:51Z")

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[Anyone see this news story?](http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57561515/61-killed-in-post-celebration-stampede-in-ivory-coast/)

Spectators leaving a stadium after a fireworks show began to stampede, killing 61 and injuring 49.

According to the linked article, “Most of those killed were between 8 and 15 years old.” ☹

I haven’t found anything that explained what actually caused the rush.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-people-dead-after-stampede-in-ivory-coast/645790/2 "2013-01-02T01:37:27Z")

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Clearly fireworks should be banned. Or stadiums. Or feet. And stampeding should be outlawed. Or something.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-people-dead-after-stampede-in-ivory-coast/645790/3 "2013-01-02T03:21:12Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Clearly fireworks should be banned. Or stadiums. Or feet. And stampeding should be outlawed. Or something.

You’ve had some time to think about this post. How’s it feel? Feel good?

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-people-dead-after-stampede-in-ivory-coast/645790/4 "2013-01-02T03:23:53Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> You’ve had some time to think about this post. How’s it feel? Feel good?

The gun-grabbers are exploiting the Newtown massacre for all it’s worth. Why not this one?

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-people-dead-after-stampede-in-ivory-coast/645790/5 "2013-01-02T03:27:39Z")

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I’ll just put a little check next to “Yes.”

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-people-dead-after-stampede-in-ivory-coast/645790/6 "2013-01-02T03:28:32Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Why not this one?

Because this is an accident, not a calculated act of aggression.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-people-dead-after-stampede-in-ivory-coast/645790/7 "2013-01-02T03:31:23Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Because this is an accident, not a calculated act of aggression.

Once is an accident. This is the third stampede mass-casualty event in that country in 3 years.

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-people-dead-after-stampede-in-ivory-coast/645790/8 "2013-01-02T03:55:29Z")

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one news report said at the end there were some small rapid noise making explosives that maybe some people mistook to be gun fire and a panic started

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-people-dead-after-stampede-in-ivory-coast/645790/9 "2013-01-02T04:13:47Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Once is an accident. This is the third stampede mass-casualty event in that country in 3 years.

They should probably enact some stricter regulations about egress from buildings, like we do in the US with building codes. Yay government!

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-people-dead-after-stampede-in-ivory-coast/645790/10 "2013-01-02T04:19:43Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> They should probably enact some stricter regulations about egress from buildings, like we do in the US with building codes. Yay government!

Just regulate fireworks so that no more than one bang per 10 seconds is allowed. Who needs more than that? Or ban fireworks completely. Will definitely reduce stampedes.

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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-people-dead-after-stampede-in-ivory-coast/645790/11 "2013-01-02T04:28:24Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Clearly fireworks should be banned. Or stadiums. Or feet. And stampeding should be outlawed. Or something.

From the article:

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> This is not Ivory Coast’s first stadium tragedy. In 2009, 22 people died and over 130 were injured in a stampede at a World Cup qualifying match at the Houphouet Boigny Stadium, prompting FIFA, soccer’s global governing body, to impose a fine of tens of thousands of dollars on Ivory Coast’s soccer federation. The stadium, which officially holds 35,000, was overcrowded at the time of the disaster.
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> A year later, two people were killed and 30 wounded in a stampede at a municipal stadium during a reggae concert in Bouake, the country’s second-largest city. The concert was organized in the city, held by rebels at the time, to promote peace and reconciliation.

They do seem prone to panic there. Perhaps their government will consider requiring a large number of exits anywhere there are large crowds gathered?

Either way… I don’t think they’d take kindly to the US government trying to intervene.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-people-dead-after-stampede-in-ivory-coast/645790/12 "2013-01-02T07:07:52Z")

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> [@Enkel](#):
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> Perhaps their government will consider requiring a large number of exits anywhere there are large crowds gathered?

More vomitoriums!

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-people-dead-after-stampede-in-ivory-coast/645790/13 "2013-01-02T07:39:59Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Just regulate fireworks so that no more than one bang per 10 seconds is allowed. Who needs more than that? Or ban fireworks completely. Will definitely reduce stampedes.

Take it to Great Debates if you wish to debate anything…but stop hijacking this topic.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-people-dead-after-stampede-in-ivory-coast/645790/14 "2013-01-02T07:46:28Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Clearly fireworks should be banned. Or stadiums. Or feet. And stampeding should be outlawed. Or something.

As said; the way that countries avoid this sort of thing is government regulation; building codes and other forms of crowd control that make places likely to attract crowds less prone to forming crushes that kill people. Your attempt to equate this to the gun control argument actually works as an argument for gun control.

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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/61-people-dead-after-stampede-in-ivory-coast/645790/15 "2013-01-02T08:37:30Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> More vomitoriums!

So, that sent me to the Google and it came up with Cecil’s explanation: [Were there really vomitoriums in ancient Rome? - The Straight Dope](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2421/were-there-really-vomitoriums-in-ancient-rome)
