# 62 Years Old, Natural, Versus 64 Years Old, Surgeried **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 18, 2011, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/62-years-old-natural-versus-64-years-old-surgeried/600012 "2011-10-18T05:07:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/62-years-old-natural-versus-64-years-old-surgeried/600012/41 "2011-10-18T20:04:37Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Somers is making her living pushing her healthful diet. If eating healthy makes one look like that, give me the McDonald’s. Somers also promotes various kinds of [health woo](http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/08/oh_goody_suzanne_somers_has_found_new_woo.php) (bioidentical hormones, adult stem cell therapy etc.). So maybe her appearance can’t be entirely blamed on plastic surgery. Interesting though that people who promote “natural” remedies can be associated with unnatural attempts to maintain their appearance (another example is Jenny McCarthy, who warns us about vaccine “toxins” but thinks that Botox injections in the face are just wonderful (and is a poster child for, um, enhancements in general)). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/62-years-old-natural-versus-64-years-old-surgeried/600012/42 "2011-10-18T20:52:21Z")
But it’s _all-natural_ botulism! ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/62-years-old-natural-versus-64-years-old-surgeried/600012/43 "2011-10-19T00:37:08Z")
You know, I’m used to seeing the “permanent startle” of poorly done eyebrow/forehead lifts. I’m used to the unnaturally plump cheeks, the overly-perfect teeth, and even the doll-like smoothness of Botox. But _what the fuck_ did SS and Linda Evans do to their chins? I mean, I have more than my original allotment of chin. The additional one might hang in a fatty fold from my jawbone, but that at least is nature telling me to cut back on the chocolate. I suppose if, in a moment of well-funded psychosis I decided that the way to get rid of chin #2 was not diet/exercise but implanting a chin extension on chin #1 in an effort to delineate and separate said chins, but . . . No! It’s wrong! It’s bad! It goes against Og and nature! Kill it with fire! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/62-years-old-natural-versus-64-years-old-surgeried/600012/44 "2011-10-19T03:12:40Z")
Great, now you’ve got me imagining people with two completely separate chins, one in front of the other… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/62-years-old-natural-versus-64-years-old-surgeried/600012/45 "2011-10-19T03:18:22Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > [Helen Mirren](http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20339363,00.html) is another actress, now in her sixties, who still looks beautiful. She looks like Jimmy Durante. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/62-years-old-natural-versus-64-years-old-surgeried/600012/46 "2011-10-19T03:23:39Z")
> [@Folly](#): > > That’s weird, all I see is blonde, brunette, redhead… Golf clap. ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/62-years-old-natural-versus-64-years-old-surgeried/600012/47 "2011-10-19T04:37:58Z")
If you can handle it, lots of befores/afters here —\> [http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/](http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/62-years-old-natural-versus-64-years-old-surgeried/600012/48 "2011-10-19T14:20:38Z")
After reading Somers’s memoir about how she got pregnant when her boyfriend came on her panties (Have sex before marriage. I would never), how she got pregnant again by her married lover when she forgot to take her pill the day she was arrested for bouncing checks, and how she almost died from having a legal abortion, I would NOT trust one word out of her mouth. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/62-years-old-natural-versus-64-years-old-surgeried/600012/49 "2011-10-19T14:34:59Z")
Another woman who ruined a perfectly beautiful 52 year old face with that chin. . . thing is [Ellen Barkin](http://inyourface.ocregister.com/files/2011/06/Ellen-Barkin-380w-0611-1159.jpg). Not as horrifying as SS but, really, is that necessary? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/62-years-old-natural-versus-64-years-old-surgeried/600012/50 "2011-10-19T16:18:11Z")
I don’t get the big chin thing or the big round cheek thing - I get that they’re trying to plump out the wrinkles with big round cheeks, but now you’ve got these weird-looking big round cheeks. WTF, man? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/62-years-old-natural-versus-64-years-old-surgeried/600012.md?page=2)