# 63 Up

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/63-up/844451>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 6, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/63-up/844451 "2019-12-06T03:21:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/63-up/844451/1 "2019-12-06T03:21:05Z")

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In 1963, director Michael Apted did a BBC program called “7 Up” where he interviewed a diverse group of British 7-year-olds, and the program was so popular, he’s come back every 7 years to do updates. “56 Up” was disappointing and I was not the only person who wondered if that would be it for the series, but it isn’t; they’re back for another episode, which will probably air on PBS in the months to come.

One of them died in 2013 and others have refused to participate, something he respects, and I do look forward to seeing it.

> **[63 Up (TV Mini Series 2019) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8929142/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)**
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> 63 Up: With Tony Walker, Nicholas Hitchon, Jacqueline Bassett, Andrew Brackfield. Director Michael Apted revisits the same group of British-born adults after a seven-year wait. The subjects are interviewed as to the changes that have occurred in...

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/63-up/844451/2 "2019-12-06T03:37:48Z")

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The wife and I have watched the entire series, finding them on tape or DVD in Bangkok. Now in Hawaii, it’s doubtful this new one will play here, so we’ll have to look for the video (if not catch it on PBS). And maybe finally buy a DVD player. But it’s a fascinating series.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/63-up/844451/3 "2019-12-06T03:40:04Z")

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Good NY Times article:

> **[Does Who You Are at 7 Determine Who You Are at 63? (Published 2019)](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/27/magazine/63-up-michael-apted.html)**
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> In 1964, with “Seven Up!” Michael Apted stumbled into making what has become the most profound documentary series in the history of cinema. Fifty-five years later, the project is reaching its conclusion.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/63-up/844451/4 "2019-12-06T04:44:43Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Good NY Times article:  
> [https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/11/27/magazine/63-up-michael-apted.amp.html](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/11/27/magazine/63-up-michael-apted.amp.html)

“To the manner born”? Whoops.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/63-up/844451/5 "2019-12-06T05:45:30Z")

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> [@hogarth](#):
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> “To the manner born”? Whoops.

Why “whoops”? In that context, it’s not an unreasonable description.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/63-up/844451/6 "2019-12-06T11:36:52Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> Why “whoops”? In that context, it’s not an unreasonable description.

I’m guessing hogarth is unaware that _manner_ is the correct form of this expression — though, as with a thousand other examples (it’s a basic way language changes), the mistake is so common that, on some level, _manor_ is becoming “correct” as well.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/63-up/844451/7 "2019-12-06T12:15:34Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> I’m guessing hogarth is unaware that _manner_ is the correct form of this expression — though, as with a thousand other examples (it’s a basic way language changes), the mistake is so common that, on some level, _manor_ is becoming “correct” as well.

I stand corrected!

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/63-up/844451/8 "2019-12-06T12:45:42Z")

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> [@hogarth](#):
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> I stand corrected!

That makes two of us. I had to look it up, myself, when I saw it in that article.

Good piece here that makes the case for “manor”:

> **[To the manner / manor born « The Word Detective](http://www.word-detective.com/2011/10/to-the-manner-manor-born/)**
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> Please pass the passé. Dear Word Detective: I have heard the phrase "to the manner born" (or "to the manor born") fairly frequently, and I understand it to mean someone born to the upper classes (or someone who has the appearance of being born to the...

Okay, sorry for the diversion…back to the wonderful series culminating with 63 Up!

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/63-up/844451/9 "2019-12-06T16:49:38Z")

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Seven Up, Seven Plus Seven, 21 Up, 28 Up, 35 Up, 42 Up, 49 Up, and 56 Up, can all be found on YouTube.
