# 67th Golden Globe Awards (2010) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 18, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373 "2010-01-18T00:56:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/41 "2010-01-18T04:36:33Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > Also, it looks terrible and people immediately lose 60 IQ points in my eyes for wanting to see it unless they have ten year old children and they are seeing it with a sense of dread. Especially because every James Cameron movie is the same overblown, overhyped, badly written shit. > > Also because even on the small screen the blue people look stupid. > > Also because anyone who’s taste I actually trust who has seen it has confirmed my suspicion that the movie is shit. Do you realize you’re behaving like a child? Are you going to start calling people poopyheads as well? ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/42 "2010-01-18T04:37:42Z")
I’m not reviewing the movie. I said it looks like shit. I stand by that. I see no obligation to see a movie that looks stupid to me made by a director who’s made no movies that I thought were good. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/43 "2010-01-18T04:39:18Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Do you realize you’re behaving like a child? Are you going to start calling people poopyheads as well? I haven’t insulted anyone. I just expressed my opinion of Avatar. I’m really sick of the hype. Sue me. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/44 "2010-01-18T04:39:58Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > I said it looks like shit. I stand by that. Yeah, you’ve now said that in _5 consecutive posts_ in the same thread. You’re the only one here who seems weirdly obsessed with it. Why do you think you need to repeat the exact same words 5 times in a row? ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/45 "2010-01-18T04:41:21Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > I’m not reviewing the movie. I said it looks like shit. I stand by that. I see no obligation to see a movie that looks stupid to me made by a director who’s made no movies that I thought were good. Do you judge all movies by their trailers and books by their cover? > [@cricetus](#): > > I haven’t insulted anyone. I just expressed my opinion of Avatar. I’m really sick of the hype. Sue me. No, you expressed an opinion based on others’ opinions of Avatar, and maybe a trailer or two. A very thick distinction. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/46 "2010-01-18T04:42:48Z")
I just said it looks terrible. Christ, I said the same thing elsewhere and I didn’t get so much crap for it. I didn’t know this place was crawling with Avatar zealots. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/47 "2010-01-18T04:43:58Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > I just said it looks terrible. Christ, I said the same thing elsewhere and I didn’t get so much crap for it. I didn’t know this place was crawling with Avatar zealots. I would have called you out on your blatent ignorance regardless of the movie, when you post the same uninformed opinion 3-5+ times in a row for a movie in which you admit to having not seen. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/48 "2010-01-18T04:44:33Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > I just said it looks terrible. Christ, I said the same thing elsewhere and I didn’t get so much crap for it. I didn’t know this place was crawling with Avatar zealots. In other places did you repeat yourself after every single post? Or did you just give your opinion and move on? ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/49 "2010-01-18T04:45:32Z")
> [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > Do you judge all movies by their trailers and books by their cover? > > No, you expressed an opinion based on others’ opinions of Avatar, and maybe a trailer or two. > > A very thick distinction. I said it LOOKS terrible not that it IS terrible. I am really sorry I offended you by making this pronouncement. Among my friends and social circle, people have conversations that go like this: “Have you seen Avatar?” “No, it looks terrible.” We are not required or expected to see every movie before we are even entitled to say whether it “looks” good to us. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/50 "2010-01-18T04:46:22Z")
On a different note–I haven’t seen \*Crazy Heart \*yet either, but Jeff Bridges is my all-time favorite actor (since way before it was cool to worship at the altar of The Dude) and it was great to see him recognized. His acceptance speech seemed genuine and heartfelt. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/51 "2010-01-18T04:48:13Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > I said it LOOKS terrible not that it IS terrible. I am really sorry I offended you by making this pronouncement. Among my friends and social circle, people have conversations that go like this: > > “Have you seen Avatar?” > “No, it looks terrible.” > > We are not required or expected to see every movie before we are even entitled to say whether it “looks” good to us. And then you went on to insult those who disagree with your obviously uninformed opinion. Do you insult others in real life for things in which you’re completely ignorant of? And continue to do so over and over until someone pays you the attention for which you’re apparently so desperate for? ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/52 "2010-01-18T04:49:49Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > In other places did you repeat yourself after every single post? Or did you just give your opinion and move on? I didn’t say exactly the same thing more than once, and I seriously didn’t expect people would get so wound up over it. I was kind of irritated and made three posts. All right. What’s done is done. If your fight is telling off that guy in the Golden Globes thread who hated on James Cameron, that’s your battle and you fought it well. I am vanquished and corrected and feel small for having thrice expressed an opinion. I am chastened and humiliated. I lost. You won. Know what? They are still digging dead bodies out of the rubble in Haiti ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/53 "2010-01-18T04:51:07Z")
> [@myskepticsight](#): > > But is Avatar loved because it had a fantastic story and great, well developed, interesting characters, good story flow and a lasting effect on its viewers? Or because it is the most expensive/advanced visual film ever made? It had a fantastic story, interesting characters, a good story flow and a message that made a lasting impression on (most) viewers. AND it’s the most advanced visual film ever made. No one likes it because it’s the most expensive movie, that’s just silly. If it were only about expense and special effects then **2012** would have made a lot more money and be in the running for tons of awards. **2012** didn’t even break $200 million in the US, and it’s ONLY gotten special effects attention, which was totally overshadowed when Avatar was released. > [@myskepticsight](#): > > If a movie has those fantastic graphics AND a fantastic story and acting that is one thing. And Avatar had all those things. You and others may not agree. Doesn’t make you right. Doesn’t mean I’m right either, but a lot more people agree with me than with you. > [@myskepticsight](#): > > Maybe I just tend to like films who worry a lot more about the story and the characters then ones that spend their money on the scenery. I like those films too, and luckily I don’t limit myself to them. I like what I like and it doesn’t matter to me if other people like them too. My favorites from last year were Away We Go, Moon, The Hurt Locker, The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, (500) Days of Summer, The Invention of Lying, An Education, The Messenger, A Serious Man, A Single Man, Inglorious Basterds, District 9, Fantastic Mr. Fox, and some others I’ll think of after the edit window closes. Avatar’s among them. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/54 "2010-01-18T04:51:48Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > Know what? They are still digging dead bodies out of the rubble in Haiti Shame that didn’t occur to you before you posted the first three times. ETA: And continue to do so, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/55 "2010-01-18T04:52:25Z")
> [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > And then you went on to insult those who disagree with your obviously uninformed opinion. Do you insult others in real life for things in which you’re completely ignorant of? I stand by every comment I made. I said Avatar looks terrible to me, and it does. I am an expert on what looks terrible to me. I am probably the world’s foremost authority on the subject. I’m not sure who would “disagree” with me about what looks terrible to me or where or how I insulted them. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/56 "2010-01-18T04:53:36Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > I’m not sure who would “disagree” with me about what looks terrible to me or where or how I insulted them. No, you were arguing that what looks “terrible” to you makes those who think otherwise WHO HAVE SEEN IT “stupid” and “10 years old.” ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/57 "2010-01-18T04:53:46Z")
1 > [@cricetus](#): > > avatar looks like shit to me. 1. > [@cricetus](#): > > avatar looks like shit to me and when anyone expresses enthusiasm for it i assume they are stupid. 1. > [@cricetus](#): > > it looks like absolute shit. 1. > [@cricetus](#): > > also because anyone who’s taste i actually trust who has seen it has confirmed my suspicion that the movie is shit. 5 > [@cricetus](#): > > i said it looks like shit. I stand by that. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/58 "2010-01-18T04:53:56Z")
I seriously didn’t think it would cause such a fuss to post variations on a thought. I got defensive when attacked. I am sorry. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/59 "2010-01-18T04:55:07Z")
Avatar’s script was a moronic Frankensteinian collection of clichés from other movies sewed together to make a moral point about a world which had the ecological sophistication of Epcot. But it didn’t look terrible. It looks better than I was expecting. Something on screen kept my attention the whole time we were away from the humans, who were dullsville. I can’t figure out cricetus’ actual complaint. I might even like to join in. I kept calling it Dances with Avatars. But looking terrible? Do you have one glass eye? That would be a legitimate problem. I wanted Cameron’s ex-wife to win. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373/60 "2010-01-18T04:57:52Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Do you have one glass eye? That would be a legitimate problem. Maybe he just drinks a lot of blueberry Kool-Aid. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/67th-golden-globe-awards-2010/525373.md?page=4)