# 7:35 de la Mañana

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 16, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895 "2009-06-16T00:10:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/1 "2009-06-16T00:10:53Z")

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If you have eight minutes or so, [this short film](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTrT-gS_C3M) is well worth watching. It was directed by the same guy who did Timecrimes, which is one of the best time travel movies I’ve ever seen.

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**Author:** ![minlokwat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minlokwat/32/2844_2.png) [@minlokwat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minlokwat)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/2 "2009-06-16T02:56:51Z")

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A mí no me la gustó.

Lo siento.

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/3 "2009-06-16T03:37:09Z")

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> [@minlokwat](#):
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> A mí no me la gustó.
> 
> Lo siento.

Nitpick: “A mi\* no me\*\* gustó.”

- The word “mi” has a single syllable. So it usually doesn’t need an accent… or only to distinguish it from homonyms. This variant doesn’t need the accent.  
\*\* No need to stick an article in the middle of the sentence

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/4 "2009-06-16T03:47:15Z")

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> [@DiggitCamara](#):
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> Nitpick: “A mi\* no me\*\* gustó.”
> 
> - The word “mi” has a single syllable. So it usually doesn’t need an accent… or only to distinguish it from homonyms. This variant doesn’t need the accent.  
> \*\* No need to stick an article in the middle of the sentence

I liked it, though.

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/5 "2009-06-16T04:11:22Z")

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Me gustó.

I went to add Timecrimes to my Netflix queue and it was already there. I think I put it on there just for the cover of the DVD. I’ll definitely check it out.

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**Author:** ![minlokwat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minlokwat/32/2844_2.png) [@minlokwat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minlokwat)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/6 "2009-06-16T13:31:32Z")

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> [@DiggitCamara](#):
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> Nitpick: “A mi\* no me\*\* gustó.”
> 
> - The word “mi” has a single syllable. So it usually doesn’t need an accent… or only to distinguish it from homonyms. This variant doesn’t need the accent.  
> \*\* No need to stick an article in the middle of the sentence

Are you sure about that?

I included the acute accent over the “mi” since I seem to recall from my high school Spanish days that it is used to distinguish it from the possessive adjective “mi” (my singular).

I could try to dig up an old Spanish textbook but I’m pretty sure that’s right.

Also the “la” isn’t the singular definite feminine article ‘the’ rather the direct object pronoun “it” replacing _la película_.

I wanted my line to mean something along the lines of: “As for me, I didn’t like it.”

_¿Quién puede ayudarnos aquí?_

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/7 "2009-06-16T14:07:18Z")

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Spanish speaker here, I am ashamed to confess that I dont know about the Mí/mi thing, I _think_ that it its “Mí” but I am not sure, I hate accents anyway.

DiggitCamara is definitively right about the article, its “A mí/mi no me gustó”.

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/8 "2009-06-16T14:21:14Z")

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**Minlokwat** is correct that mí, with the accent, is correct.

However, s/he is incorrect about the “la.” La película is the subject of the sentence, therefore it cannot also be the direct object, which would be “la.” (That’s why “la” should be left out completely.)

(I hope that is correct. People can be brutal on this board about correcting Spanish grammar.)

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/9 "2009-06-16T16:05:23Z")

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I love this film. Much better quality version [here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QTx-LBaMIw&fmt=18). But it doesn’t have English subtitles.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/10 "2009-06-17T14:42:30Z")

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[Here’s a high quality version with YouTube closed-captions in English.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usYIM4Q7mII)

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/11 "2009-06-17T15:10:48Z")

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The film was nominated for an Oscar in the Live Action Short category (it lost).

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/12 "2009-06-21T07:01:42Z")

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> [@minlokwat](#):
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> Are you sure about that?
> 
> I included the acute accent over the “mi” since I seem to recall from my high school Spanish days that it is used to distinguish it from the possessive adjective “mi” (my singular).
> 
> I could try to dig up an old Spanish textbook but I’m pretty sure that’s right.
> 
> Also the “la” isn’t the singular definite feminine article ‘the’ rather the direct object pronoun “it” replacing _la película_.
> 
> I wanted my line to mean something along the lines of: “As for me, I didn’t like it.”
> 
> _¿Quién puede ayudarnos aquí?_

Let’s split this half way, why don’t we?

Like I said, monosyllabic words aren’t usually accented. However, they are accented to distinguish between homonyms. (Tú/tu are valid, depending on the context, que/qué as well, si/sí , and so on).

You were right to accent the mí (You write “Mi amigo” but you can also say “A mí no me agradó”).

So: I was wrong about the use of the accent on “mí”. “A mí no me la gustó” is wrong because of the added article (la).

For some reason, english and spanish speaking people add that extra article. I’ve always wondered why they do this.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/13 "2009-06-21T07:23:31Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> [Here’s a high quality version with YouTube closed-captions in English.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usYIM4Q7mII)

No, the first is the better edit. This is an entirely different short film. The first is unknowing and provides better tension through Unbekannt - “nis”.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/14 "2009-06-21T07:25:33Z")

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> [@ultrafilter](#):
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> If you have eight minutes or so, [this short film](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTrT-gS_C3M) is well worth watching. It was directed by the same guy who did Timecrimes, which is one of the best time travel movies I’ve ever seen.

Have you seen _Primer_? I bet you’d really like it.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/15 "2009-06-21T07:43:46Z")

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> [@devilsknew](#):
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> No, the first is the better edit. This is an entirely different short film. The first is unknowing and provides better tension through Unbekannt - “nis”.

Are you making an obscure joke? They are the same edit.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/16 "2009-06-21T08:13:15Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> Are you making an obscure joke? They are the same edit.

No, it isn’t. They omitted the collected cellphones, and the shifty eyed barrista. It’s “terrorristic” tendecies were delayed till 4:00 minutes in. It was a slower4 reveal.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/17 "2009-06-21T08:20:10Z")

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…on the cesium clock.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/18 "2009-06-21T09:35:55Z")

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I missed the cellphone barrista part.- Yep, I missed that part, by going to the bathroom or being distracted by something… maybe I got a glass of Limonade, now that I think of it.- I rechecked the footage and you are right, **gaffa**.

I saw my own devilsknew edit. The reveal didn’t happen until the 4:00 minute mark for me and the harangue of the Spanish Judah Friedlander, I missed that crucial part. That’s why the non-subtitled version seemed like a different film. I actually think the film works better with that slight edit, the unknowing and dramatic reveal.

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**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/19 "2009-06-21T15:19:08Z")

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Frodo ¡Qué verguenza!  
The difference between mí and mi is that the first is a personal pronoun, i.e: hablan sobre mí, and the second a “possessive adjective”, i.e: mi casa.  
Didn’t like the movie though.

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**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-35-de-la-manana/499895/20 "2009-06-21T15:22:38Z")

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Sorry, I forgot to add that “A mí no me gustó” is the correct phrase.

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