# 7 dead in Fresno **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 13, 2004, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025 "2004-03-13T03:32:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/1 "2004-03-13T03:32:10Z")
Not on the net yet, but about 300 yards from my house. 7 people were found dead, 3 women, 3 toddlers, and one infant. The apparent murderer surrendered to police after a 4-5 hour standoff. No news as to how they died but the guy supposedly came out covered with blood and the police cheif described the scene as “the most horrific scene he had ever encountered.” Supposedly this came up as part of a custody dispute that took place last night. I am still almost too shocked to comment. Will post updates as I hear… ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/2 "2004-03-13T03:51:43Z")
I am so sorry. I hope that it doesn’t turn out to be anyone you know. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/3 "2004-03-13T04:10:22Z")
They just had a brief report on the 10 o’clock news. (I’m in MN) If one was in a custody dispute, you would think they cared about the kids. So why kill _them_?! ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/4 "2004-03-13T04:13:08Z")
I realize that may have sounded insenitive to the women who also lost their lives. I meant no offense, really. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/5 "2004-03-13T04:15:16Z")
[Link](http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/8174631.htm) 10 caskets in the _home?_ Weird. Ugh, all around. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/6 "2004-03-13T04:23:14Z")
> [@](#): > > …it was not clear whether the caskets were part of Wesson’s occupation. It seems that Mr. Wesson’s occupation was [marketing](http://www.google.ca/search?q=cache:a8m4DC3_IzwJ:www.marcuswesson.com/aboutmarcus.html), unless there are two Marcus Wesson’s in Fresno. (Link goes to a cache of a website that is currently unavailable.) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/7 "2004-03-13T04:40:02Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > It seems that Mr. Wesson’s occupation was [marketing](http://www.google.ca/search?q=cache:a8m4DC3_IzwJ:www.marcuswesson.com/aboutmarcus.html), unless there are two Marcus Wesson’s in Fresno. > > (Link goes to a cache of a website that is currently unavailable.) Of course, Mr. Wesson might not even be _from_ Fresno. Neither [WhitePages.com](http://WhitePages.com) nor [Switchboard.com](http://Switchboard.com) can find any M., Mark, or Marcus Wessons in Fresno. Could be he’s unlisted though. ---
**Author:** ![ElwoodCuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/edb3f5/32.png) [@ElwoodCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElwoodCuse)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/8 "2004-03-13T06:25:00Z")
Now I have that Neil Young song stuck in my head. Tin soldiers and Nixon’s coming We’re finally on our own This summer I hear the drumming Four dead in Ohio ---
**Author:** ![Cowgirl\_Jules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@Cowgirl\_Jules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cowgirl_Jules)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/9 "2004-03-13T06:28:03Z")
Here’s a slightly longer article in the local paper [Link](http://www.fresnobee.com/breakingnews/story/8268372p-9111859c.html) ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/10 "2004-03-13T13:11:57Z")
Does any-one else find this ending rather odd? > [@](#): > > The nine deaths represent the largest mass killing in Fresno since 1993, when seven people were killed in the Carrillo’s Club murders in rural Fresno. And if it is only the largest since 1993, what is the largest ever? ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/11 "2004-03-13T21:15:20Z")
> [@](#): > > And if it is only the largest since 1993, what is the largest ever? The largest ever in Fresno? Or the largest ever by a single person in a single incident in modern history, sans explosives? ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2004, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/12 "2004-03-14T02:13:45Z")
> [@neuroman](#): > > The largest ever in Fresno? Or the largest ever by a single person in a single incident in modern history, sans explosives? Largest ever in Fresno. see original quote "The nine deaths represent the largest mass killing in Fresno since 1993, when seven people were killed in the Carrillo’s Club murders in rural Fresno. " The more I read that, the weirder it gets; where there a couple of dozen mass killings in Fresno in the last eleven years in which only six or fewer were killed? Or a couple of dozen before 1993 in which more that nine were killed? Either could be inferred from that sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/13 "2004-03-15T07:19:18Z")
There are [suggestions that he fathered two of the slain children with his own daughters.](http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/8278017p-9120625c.html) > [@](#): > > Dyer said: “We’ve been told that suspect Wesson is the father of two of his grandchildren.” Suffering Christ. ---
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/14 "2005-06-17T17:52:31Z")
I know its an old thread but we are all sitting here at work glued to the TV awaiting mr Wessons verdict. The Jackson trial sureley eclipsed much of this outside of CA but it has been a daily part of the news here for months now… the clock crawls as we wait… ---
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/15 "2005-06-17T18:16:58Z")
Wow… So far…6 counts of Murder 1 guilty ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/16 "2005-06-17T18:29:34Z")
This is the first time I’ve heard about this and it’s absolutely depressing. That festering pile of garbage still has the support of one of his daughters, even after raping her and killing her children. Sad. I can’t imagine the jury would vote to do anything but give him the death penalty. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/17 "2005-06-17T19:07:57Z")
I’m slow. I just looked at the OP and said “Wow…this sounds an awful lot like tht other mass murder that happened in Fresno a couple years ago…” Duh. How did it turn out? ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/18 "2005-06-17T19:10:18Z")
[http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/california/northern\_california/11921477.htm](http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/california/northern_california/11921477.htm) Guilty, 9 counts of murder. Guilty, 14 counts of molesting his daughters. I can’t imagine what the government could do to properly punish this man that would not be considered cruel and unusual. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/19 "2005-06-17T19:22:39Z")
Was it first degree murder? Is he up for the death penalty? ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025/20 "2005-06-17T19:43:16Z")
Yep. But the death penalty’s too good for him, imho. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-dead-in-fresno/234025.md?page=2)