# 7 deadly sins **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 15, 2003, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406 "2003-08-15T16:18:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bren\_Cameron\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@Bren\_Cameron\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bren_Cameron_1)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2003, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/21 "2003-08-16T13:52:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by everton \* > \*\*You’re pushing it a bit with those selections. What are they supposed to represent definitively? \*\* The orders (orders, right?) of columns was the first list. The second list was the Trivium and the Quadrivium–IIRC, the list of subjects any well-educated medieval university student would study. I think. ---
**Author:** ![everton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@everton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/everton)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2003, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/22 "2003-08-16T14:08:14Z")
OK, I’ll buy the Trivium and the Quadrivium, but there aren’t seven orders of columns. There are [five classical orders of architecture](http://www.cadking.co.uk/dl/architects/ada/documents/general/orders/classical_orders.htm) (Doric, Ionic and Corinthian used in Greece, and Tuscan and Composite added by the Romans). Baroque and Gothic are not orders and are not definitively “the other two” styles, they’ve just been added to the list above to make it into a list of seven. You could just as easily add several more. ---
**Author:** ![ali0r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@ali0r](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ali0r)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2003, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/23 "2003-08-16T14:18:54Z")
off on an tangent here i know…but, avarice, is that similar/the same as greed or…? ---
**Author:** ![everton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@everton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/everton)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2003, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/24 "2003-08-16T14:32:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ali0r \* > \*\*off on an tangent here i know…but, avarice, is that similar/the same as greed or…? \*\* Yes, greed, avarice and covetousness are all synonyms in this context. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2003, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/25 "2003-08-16T14:52:51Z")
That would be the Seven Orders of Classical Architecture and the Seven Liberal Arts. I know nothing of columns. These names are used in some Msonic rituals and call the Seven Orders. I will accept correction as required. I will also point out the Seven Liberal Arts would include both Football and Summer Football in most of Texas. ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2003, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/26 "2003-08-16T15:00:19Z")
Seven forms of the verb ‘to be’: [ul][li]am[/li][li]is[/li][li]are[/li][li]was[/li][li]were[/li][li]being[/li]been[/ul] ---
**Author:** ![everton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@everton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/everton)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2003, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/27 "2003-08-16T15:20:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Paul in Saudi \* > That would be the Seven Orders of Classical Architecture and the Seven Liberal Arts. > > I know nothing of columns. These names are used in some Msonic rituals and call the Seven Orders. I will accept correction as required. OK, but just to underline the point, Baroque isn’t an order and Gothic isn’t even classical. I do know some architects who happen to be freemasons but the terminology doesn’t cross over very well. Irony abounds. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2003, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/28 "2003-08-16T15:58:56Z")
Thank you all with putting up with my facination with lists of sevens. I am done now. (Although I wam willing and eager to hear more. Seven forms of “To Be?” Neato!) (How many M&M colors are there? Humm…) ---
**Author:** ![everton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@everton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/everton)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2003, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/29 "2003-08-16T17:17:20Z")
How about the Palatine, Capitoline, Aventine, Caelian, Esquiline, Viminal and Quirinal? Several cities apart from Rome also claim to be built on seven hills. Or the seven heavens? Or the seven sacraments? There are lots of sevens in the Bible not already mentioned here (Revelation is full of them). ---
**Author:** ![VernWinterbottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c67d28/32.png) [@VernWinterbottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VernWinterbottom)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2003, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/30 "2003-08-16T17:51:23Z")
Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday ---
**Author:** ![Katisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bcef8e/32.png) [@Katisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katisha)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2003, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/31 "2003-08-16T18:26:03Z")
How about the seven modes, in music? Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian, Locrian? ---
**Author:** ![kawliga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ea666f/32.png) [@kawliga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kawliga)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/32 "2003-08-17T06:25:12Z")
Chris Vin Britt Lee Bernardo Harry Chico ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/33 "2003-08-17T12:24:05Z")
The Seven Brothers for whom there were Seven Brides? ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/34 "2003-08-17T12:55:14Z")
The Seven Sister Colleges: Barnard College (New York, NY) - founded in 1889, adjacent to Columbia University. In 1983 Columbia began to accept women applicants, ending Barnard’s exclusive right to enroll women undergrads. Bryn Mawr College (Bryn Mawr, PA) - this nondenominational college counts actress Katharine Hepburn among its notable alumnae. Mount Holyoke College (South Hadley, MA) - founded in 1837, this was the first of the Seven Sister schools, and the first institution of higher education for women in the U.S. Radcliffe College (Cambridge, MA) - emerged in 1893 as an institution adjacent to, yet separate from, Harvard University. In the 1970s, the two schools merged and women were officially granted Harvard degrees. Smith College (Northampton, MA) - Australian educator and author Jill Ker Conway became Smith’s first woman president in 1975. Vassar College (Poughkeepsie, NY) - coeducational since 1969, its the first of the Seven Sisters welcome both genders. In 1989, Rick Lazio was the first Vassar grad to be elected to Congress. However, he was defeated in a recent Senate race by a Wellesley coed. Wellesley College (Wellesley, MA) - Wellesley’s presidents have all been women, many of them Wellesley alums. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_great_unwashed/32/4791_2.png) [@The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/35 "2003-08-17T15:42:12Z")
I only careabout the **_Even_ Deadly Sins** : (2) covetousness; (4) envy; (6) anger; Because there’s no way I’m giving up my weekend entertainments. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/36 "2003-08-22T12:19:39Z")
Two all beef patties Special sauce Lettuce Cheese Pickles Onions On A Sesame Seed Bun ---
**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/37 "2003-08-22T12:49:59Z")
Someone care to explain the subtle difference between envy and covetousness? Don’t I have to envy to covet? What’s the point of envying if you don’t want what the other person has? ---
**Author:** ![carver42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bc8723/32.png) [@carver42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carver42)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/38 "2003-08-22T13:00:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by universe.zip \* > \*\*I woulda thought someone called **High Deity** would know… 😉 \*\* i would have thought someone named universe.zip would know too…:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Beryl\_Mooncalf\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9f8e36/32.png) [@Beryl\_Mooncalf\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beryl_Mooncalf_1)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/39 "2003-08-22T15:14:18Z")
And I thought the 7 sins were humility, kindness, abstinence, chastity, patience, liberality, diligence I guess I’m lurking in the pit too much. ---
**Author:** ![Beryl\_Mooncalf\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9f8e36/32.png) [@Beryl\_Mooncalf\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beryl_Mooncalf_1)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406/40 "2003-08-22T15:30:20Z")
Gandhi’s Seven Deadly Sins ``` Wealth without Work Pleasure without Conscience Science without Humanity Knowledge without Character Politics without Principle Commerce without Morality Worship without Sacrifice (Mohandas Karamachand Gandhi,) A great man IMHO. ``` [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-deadly-sins/195406.md?page=3)