# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2107 "2021-08-25T21:16:29Z")

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I agree that he’s putting himself in danger. Maybe he caught wind that he was going to be outed? Just speculating.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2108 "2021-08-25T21:18:37Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Why oh why is he doing this? What good could possibly come from it?

He is displaying actual patriotism, in sharp contrast to the insurrectionists. He will also lure Trumpists into explicitly becoming anti-cop. Maybe not change anyone’s opinion, but increases the moral contrast. For democracy to survive, we need as many people as possible who are willing to selflessly it.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2109 "2021-08-25T22:01:47Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> He will also lure Trumpists into explicitly becoming anti-cop.

They’re already there. Anyone still defending the actions of Babbitt or the other insurrectionists has made that very clear indeed.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2110 "2021-08-25T22:53:54Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Maybe not change anyone’s opinion, but increases the moral contrast.

Indeed. Put the sober account of a genuine LEO against the lunatic ravings of the insurrectionists, and let’s see what new excuses GOP lawmakers find to not investigate the insurrection.

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**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2111 "2021-08-26T02:07:32Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Why oh why is he doing this? What good could possibly come from it?
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> This officer is putting himself in grave danger for no benefit at all.

[It’s not like his name is a big secret.](https://conservapedia.com/Michael_L._Byrd)

The right wants to paint a narrative that his name is being withheld, but it’s actually common knowledge for anyone who knows how to do an internet search.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2112 "2021-08-26T02:12:02Z")

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Boy, Conservapedia living up to it’s well known ‘’‘standard’‘’,

> {redacted} was identified as the U.S. Capitol Police gunman who executed senior airman Ashli Babbitt …  
> … The Capitol Police assaulted a peaceful assembly of men, women, children, and the elderly with flash bang grenades.  
> {Picture caption} {Redacted}, the killer cop who shot and killed an unarmed woman.

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**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2113 "2021-08-26T02:23:15Z")

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Boy, Conservapedia living up to it’s well known ‘’‘standard’’’

```
{redacted} was identified as the U.S. Capitol Police gunman who executed senior airman Ashli Babbitt …
… The Capitol Police assaulted a peaceful assembly of men, women, children, and the elderly with flash bang grenades.
{Picture caption} {Redacted}, the killer cop who shot and killed an unarmed woman.

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Well, I didn’t say anything about the quality of my cite, only that the information is out there for those who are interested. The right wants to paint a picture that this information is being withheld. That is demonstratively false. The fact that “MSM” (MainStream Media) doesn’t constantly repeat it is only a reflection of what the consumers of MSM want to see.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2114 "2021-08-26T02:24:36Z")

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Or that of basic human decency. YMMV.

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**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2115 "2021-08-26T02:25:33Z")

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Same Same.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2116 "2021-08-26T02:26:12Z")

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No, not at all.

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**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2117 "2021-08-26T02:27:01Z")

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YMMV. I don’t know.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2118 "2021-08-26T02:27:29Z")

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Clearly.

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**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2119 "2021-08-26T02:28:15Z")

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It would be a lot more clear if you would say what you mean.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2120 "2021-08-26T02:38:23Z")

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> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#):
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> The right wants to paint a narrative that his name is being withheld, but it’s actually common knowledge for **anyone who knows how to do an internet search.** -

That leaves out The Right.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2121 "2021-08-26T02:40:21Z")

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> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#):
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> The fact that “MSM” (MainStream Media) doesn’t constantly repeat it is only a reflection of what the consumers of MSM want to see.

What I mean is that this statement is bullshit. The fact that a few right wing lunatic news sources have dug up the name is because they are fucking psychopaths.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2122 "2021-08-26T02:53:22Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> That leaves out The Right.

Never underestimate your opponent.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2123 "2021-08-26T03:05:25Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> What I mean is that this statement is bullshit. The fact that a few right wing lunatic news sources have dug up the name is because they are fucking psychopaths

Call your opponents lower than pond scum, if that helps.  
They are, in fact, humans.  
If “right wing lunatic” sources can dig up the name, then so can rational, freedom-loving Americans.  
Personally, I think that Lt. Bryd acted fully within his authority and was justified in the actions he took. To pretend he deserves more protection than, say, Derek Chauvin, is advocating a double standard. Chauvin abused his authority in order to kill another citizen. Byrd did not.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2124 "2021-08-26T03:07:54Z")

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> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#):
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> {…} Chauvin abused his authority in order to kill another citizen. Byrd did not.

Hmm, if only I could think of a reason why one deserves protection that the other does not…

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2125 "2021-08-26T03:11:12Z")

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> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#):
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> The fact that “MSM” (MainStream Media) doesn’t constantly repeat it is only a reflection of what the consumers of MSM want to see.

Maybe the reason that the MSM doesn’t constantly repeat it is because the name of the officer has not been officially released.

Agree with @bobot. This is a bullshit statement.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2126 "2021-08-26T03:22:23Z")

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Obviously, equal protection doesn’t mean much to you.

And, you really need to explain what “officially released” means.

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