# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 112
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2227 "2021-09-15T01:20:36Z")
Did you remember that or were you able to find the original column? Because I tried but could not find it earlier. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2228 "2021-09-15T01:40:38Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Did you remember that or were you able to find the original column? Because I tried but could not find it earlier. I’d googled and found [this](https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/straightdope?sort=top). ---
**Author:** ![Ziberian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/919ad9/32.png) [@Ziberian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ziberian)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2229 "2021-09-15T02:45:26Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > > > In Bob Woodward’s new book, he claims that Chief of Staff Milley ordered senior military officials to pledge to him that they would not obey orders from Individual 1 to launch nuclear weapons without first consulting with him, Milley. > > The article I read stated that Milley reminded them of what proper procedure is, which apparently is that there is a safeguard that Milley is to be involved in such a decision. Is that correct or not, I don’t know, but that is a very different interpretation from “not obey orders.” > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/14/us/politics/peril-woodward-book-trump.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/14/us/politics/peril-woodward-book-trump.html) Rachel Maddow said that Milley is not in the chain of command and so has no authority over military officials, so, it’s more likely that he asked to be involved rather than issued orders. This applied to Schlesinger as well. But I would guess both had the support of military officials who likely wanted to avoid nuclear war also. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2230 "2021-09-15T02:52:35Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Another tidbit from the book: Mike Pence apparently called Dan Quayle asking if there was some way for him to do what Cheato wanted. To Quayle’s credit, he firmly answered _“N-O-E NO!”_ Okay, I laughed my ass off at that. Serious stuff, but that was splendid. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2231 "2021-09-15T14:16:10Z")
Trying to remember someone’s quote from back in the day about looking into Quayle’s blue eyes and seeing clear through to the back of his head. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2232 "2021-09-15T15:32:46Z")
At least, when asked the most important question of his life, he came up with the right answer. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2233 "2021-09-15T16:23:35Z")
He did. I heard a news commentator say last night, “I admit, Dan Quayle being the savior of our democracy wasn’t on my bingo card,” or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2234 "2021-09-15T17:55:34Z")
You don’t have to be a genius, or even a spelling-bee winner, to be true to your oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2235 "2021-09-15T18:43:54Z")
That is certainly true. It was nice to see Dan Quayle prove it. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2236 "2021-09-15T23:43:25Z")
Here’s some news: > **[Oath Keeper pleads guilty in Jan. 6 riot, will cooperate](https://apnews.com/article/riots-capitol-siege-conspiracy-9fd1b2a4ee3c2ac7f888a345ff2700da)** > > A member of the far-right Oath Keepers militia group that stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 pleaded guilty Wednesday and will cooperate with investigators against his fellow extremists. > [@](#): > > Jason Dolan, 45, is the fourth person associated with the group that recruits current and former military, police and first responders to plead guilty to conspiracy charges for their roles in Capitol riot. The former Marine from Wellington, Florida has also agreed to cooperate and testify for the government before any grand juries and trials. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2237 "2021-09-16T18:54:05Z")
Quayle may be stupid, but he’s not crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2238 "2021-09-16T18:55:56Z")
And he demonstrated that he has rock solid integrity. I always admire that. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2239 "2021-09-17T14:28:42Z")
Only in 'Murrica, amirite? > **[D.C. street closures for Saturday’s rally in support of Jan. 6 insurrection...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2021/09/16/dc-streets-closed-for-protests/)** > > Crews have started to put up perimeter fencing around the U.S. Capitol area in preparation for a rally in support of those arrested in the Jan. 6 attack. Complete headline: **D.C. street closures for Saturday’s rally in support of Jan. 6 insurrection defendants** > Several streets in Washington will be closed starting as early as Thursday as officials put up fencing ahead of a rally on Saturday where demonstrators plan to gather in support of those arrested during the Jan. 6 insurrection by a pro-Trump mob. > > According to an email sent to U.S. Senate staff on Wednesday and obtained by The Washington Post, crews are putting up fencing in areas around the Capitol, which was attacked on Jan. 6 by supporters of President Donald Trump who were trying to overturn President Biden’s election victory. > … ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2240 "2021-09-17T14:30:46Z")
May it be loud but safe, and may no one be hurt or killed. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2241 "2021-09-17T14:38:59Z")
Nah, may it be quiet because almost nobody shows up for it. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2242 "2021-09-17T14:41:42Z")
Well, yes, that would be OK too - but unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Allecher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@Allecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Allecher)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2243 "2021-09-17T14:42:05Z")
I’m sure there are still some demonstrators that the investigators are trying to identify, and this weekend’s rally may be a good place to find them - returning to the scene of the crime. ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2244 "2021-09-17T15:40:18Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Only in 'Murrica, amirite? Would you prefer they only close streets for protests you agree with? If the rules only apply when it’s easy, you don’t need the rules. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2245 "2021-09-17T16:01:53Z")
> [@tofor](#): > > Would you prefer they only close streets for protests you agree with? Why would a Texan complain about some street closures in DC? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2246 "2021-09-17T16:03:58Z")
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