# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2287 "2021-09-29T23:09:42Z")

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For many of them, there wouldn’t have been trials; they would have been shot.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2288 "2021-09-30T04:25:34Z")

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Here’s two aftermaths that is also one aftermath:

> **[Friends from Ohio get 45 days in jail for Capitol riot](https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-prisons-courts-ohio-capitol-siege-1d97bcccbb3b0d1992808db03c35dcfb)**
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> COLLEGE PARK, Md. (AP) — Federal prosecutors assert that everybody who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 should be evaluated individually when deciding whether a prison sentence is warranted. On Wednesday, a judge accepted the Justice Department's...

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2021, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2289 "2021-10-02T02:50:51Z")

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And so it begins?

> **[Judge questions whether Jan. 6 rioters are treated unfairly](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-courts-riots-capitol-siege-sentencing-cdf0e335122218ab8ce43a886132a006)**
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> A federal judge who sentenced a Jan. 6 rioter to probation on Friday, instead of a harsher punishment requested by prosecutors, suggested the U.S.

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> U.S. District Court Judge Trevor McFadden questioned why federal prosecutors had not brought more cases against those accused in 2020 summertime protests, reading out statistics on riot cases in the nation’s capital that were not prosecuted.
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> “I think the U.S. attorney would have more credibility if it was even-handed in its concern about riots and mobs in this city,” McFadden said during Danielle Doyle’s sentencing for entering the Capitol on Jan. 6 with a throng of other rioters. Prosecutors recommended two months of home confinement for Doyle, who is from Oklahoma.

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> As McFadden sentenced Doyle, he said he thought she was “acting like all those looters and rioters last year. That’s because looters and rioters decided the law did not apply to them.”
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> Despite these concerns, McFadden said Doyle’s behavior was not excusable. He called it a “national embarrassment,” and again likened it to the police brutality protests following the death of George Floyd last year that made “us all feel less safe.”

This judge is a fucking idiot and an asshole. There’s really no comparison between an oppressed minority demanding equal protection and justice under the law and a ruling class upset because they can’t just do whatever the hell they want.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2290 "2021-10-02T17:27:44Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> There’s really no comparison between an oppressed minority demanding equal protection and justice under the law and a ruling class upset because they can’t just do whatever the hell they want.

The judge is part of the ruling class who is upset. That’s patently obvious here.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2291 "2021-10-02T17:33:40Z")

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Aye :

> [@Frank Wilhoit](#):
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> Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2292 "2021-10-02T17:37:49Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> This judge is a fucking idiot and an asshole. There’s really no comparison between an oppressed minority demanding equal protection and justice under the law and a ruling class upset because they can’t just do whatever the hell they want.

[Magats in positions of power](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-appointed-judge-donated-campaign-refuses-recuse-dossier/story?id=53273577). We’ll be seeing more of this.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2293 "2021-10-04T18:09:00Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> There’s really no comparison between an oppressed minority demanding equal protection and justice under the law and a ruling class upset because they can’t just do whatever the hell they want.

I actually disagree – I think motives are irrelevant. If you go on some kind of rampage and cause destruction, you should be charged appropriately, whether you’re legitimately pissed off at how society has treated people like you or idiotically pissed off at unfounded conspiracies about the election.

Of course, the Jan. 6 rioters were also guilty of attempting to overturn a legitimate election by force, so on top of the petty shit they’re being charged with I also think they should be charged with treason.

And there’s no excuse for the judge bringing up BLM-related activities in sentencing this yahoo.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2294 "2021-10-04T18:11:54Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> And there’s no excuse for the judge bringing up BLM-related activities in sentencing this yahoo.

Yeah, that’s the main thing. Has anyone ever heard of a judge not throwing the book at a felon in front of him, because some other felon in East Bumfuck, IN got off with a lesser charge?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2295 "2021-10-04T18:18:08Z")

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Here’s some news:

> **[Judge slams claims that Jan. 6 rioters are treated unfairly](https://apnews.com/article/black-lives-matter-texas-sentencing-courts-capitol-siege-675b12d0ddacb64d9030c444f8812a5c)**
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> A Texas man who joined the mob that stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 has been sentenced to 45 days behind bars. U.S.

> U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan called it a false equivalence “to compare the actions of people protesting, mostly peacefully, for civil rights” to the mob that “was trying to overthrow the government.” She said doing so “ignores the very real danger that the Jan. 6 riots pose to the foundation of our democracy.”

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2296 "2021-10-04T18:18:22Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> This judge is a fucking idiot and an asshole. There’s really no comparison between an oppressed minority demanding equal protection and justice under the law and a ruling class upset because they can’t just do whatever the hell they want.

That judge slammed by another judge:

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> Chutkan, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she “flatly” disagreed with the suggestion raised by “some people” that the Jan. 6 defendants were being treated unfairly. In fact, she said she believes those who joined the pro-Trump mob were being treated more leniently than many other defendants.

> **[Judge slams claims that Jan. 6 rioters are treated unfairly](https://apnews.com/article/black-lives-matter-texas-sentencing-courts-capitol-siege-675b12d0ddacb64d9030c444f8812a5c)**
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> A Texas man who joined the mob that stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 has been sentenced to 45 days behind bars. U.S.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2297 "2021-10-04T18:35:24Z")

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“Judgefight!!”

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**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2298 "2021-10-04T18:43:14Z")

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That dude must be pissed at both judges. He gets the extra lesson of learning what it means to be a pawn.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2299 "2021-10-06T13:12:59Z")

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Ahnuld weighs in:

> **[Arnold Schwarzenegger says January 6 insurrection is what happens 'when...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/06/politics/schwarzenegger-january-6-total-recall/index.html)**
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> Former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger -- who warned of the dangers of fascism following the insurrection at the US Capitol last winter -- said he feels the events of Nazi Germany mirror "what happens to when people are being lied to about the...

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2300 "2021-10-12T17:22:00Z")

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Ugh ugh ugh ugh _ugh_:

> **[Trump reportedly wishes slain Jan. 6 rioter Ashli Babbitt happy birthday in...](https://www.aol.com/trump-reportedly-wishes-slain-jan-150338900.html)**
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> Former President Donald Trump recorded a video message marking the birthday of Ashli Babbitt — a Capitol rioter who was killed by police on Jan. 6 — and called on the Justice Department to reopen its investigation into her death.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2301 "2021-10-12T17:25:32Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Ugh ugh ugh ugh _ugh_:
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> [Trump reportedly wishes slain Jan. 6 rioter Ashli Babbitt happy birthday in video [Video]](https://www.aol.com/trump-reportedly-wishes-slain-jan-150338900.html)

The headline cuts off after happy birthday in…. I assume the next word is hell.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2302 "2021-10-12T17:32:17Z")

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She commited suicide by cop. Way to go, Donnie, wishing happy birthday to a dead quitter! Choose your martyrs!

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2303 "2021-10-13T03:07:37Z")

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I don’t think people realize how close we are to the end of American democracy. The forces that beget January 6 aren’t dead; they’re stronger than ever. The momentum is in their favor.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2304 "2021-10-13T03:16:42Z")

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If only we had someone here to tell us every 20 posts.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2305 "2021-10-13T03:20:36Z")

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Snark all you want. We’re near the end. And your world, our world, is going to be radically different. Not much longer now.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2306 "2021-10-13T03:26:02Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Ugh ugh ugh ugh _ugh_:
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> [Trump reportedly wishes slain Jan. 6 rioter Ashli Babbitt happy birthday in video [Video]](https://www.aol.com/trump-reportedly-wishes-slain-jan-150338900.html)

Awwwww; it’s okay:

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy1VVpfFCzs)

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