# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2307 "2021-10-13T03:44:47Z")

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and what new actionable information does this give us that we didn’t have in your previous umpteen hundred posts on the subject.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2308 "2021-10-13T03:51:14Z")

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You all are not ready for it. I promise you’re not.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2309 "2021-10-13T04:13:17Z")

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NM taking it [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/380) so as to not disrupt this thread further.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2311 "2021-10-14T16:12:07Z")

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(No) Surprise!

> **[Jan. 6 panel moves against Bannon, sets contempt vote](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-congress-biden-cabinet-capitol-siege-subpoenas-cc5991e85781e1caa14188ffa021ec1c)**
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> WASHINGTON (AP) — A congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection moved aggressively against close Trump adviser Steve Bannon on Thursday, swiftly scheduling a vote to recommend criminal contempt charges against the former...

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2312 "2021-10-14T17:02:39Z")

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Well, you know what they say about the person who represents himself in court. In this case the client isn’t just a fool, he’s a giant freaking idiot.

[https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/alleged-insurrectionist-blabs-about-further-misdeeds-while-repping-himself-at-hearing](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/alleged-insurrectionist-blabs-about-further-misdeeds-while-repping-himself-at-hearing)

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2313 "2021-10-14T18:09:45Z")

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“I’m Brandon Fellows!” Just reminded me of Tracy Morgan’s SNL character.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2314 "2021-10-14T18:45:20Z")

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Brian Fellows seems to have had a much greater situational awareness and grasp of reality than Brandon does.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2316 "2021-10-15T05:15:08Z")

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They now have a [Blutfahne](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blutfahne) (Blood Flag) of their very own to wave . . . sadly (for them), not soaked in Ashli Babbitt’s blood.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/mF7wL_O2utY/maxresdefault.jpg "Virgina GOP Pledges Allegiance To Jan. 6th Insurrectionist Flag") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF7wL_O2utY)

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2317 "2021-10-15T06:59:18Z")

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[digression]  
While I have never heard of John Fredericks, I find the concept of a radio host who breathes radioactive halitosis on the truth then tramples it underfoot absolutely consistent with today’s GQP.  
[/digression]

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2318 "2021-10-15T08:28:20Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Well, you know what they say about the person who represents himself in court. In this case the client isn’t just a fool, he’s a giant freaking idiot.

Let’s go, Brandon!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2319 "2021-10-15T18:20:26Z")

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Capitol cop arrested for helping an insurrectionist to hide evidence of his involvement in the attack on the Capitol.

> **[Prosecutors: Capitol cop told Jan. 6 rioter to hide evidence](https://apnews.com/article/riots-capitol-siege-indictments-obstruction-of-justice-36f12a272f9b955e6524aa1d8e55776e)**
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> WASHINGTON (AP) — A U.S. Capitol Police officer has been indicted on obstruction of justice charges after prosecutors say he helped to hide evidence of a rioter's involvement in the Jan. 6 insurrection.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2320 "2021-10-18T18:20:22Z")

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This insurrectionist is making it official, his lawyer has told the court that he intends to assert the defense that he “was acting under public authority” when he tased police officer Michael Fanone.

In other words, he didn’t do anything wrong because he was acting on behalf of Donald Trump. In the words of his lawyer “It offends due process to convict an individual who was acting upon authorization of a public official.”

> **[Capitol Siege Defendant Who Admitted Tasing Michael Fanone Files Court...](https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/capitol-siege-defendant-who-admitted-tasing-michael-fanone-files-court-documents-claiming-he-was-acting-upon-donald-trumps-authorization/)**
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> Daniel Rodriguez is one of several defendants accused in the attack on Fanone. Rodriguez provided notice that he "may" assert a defense of "public authority." That notice is a precursor to a possible argument at trial that he was acting "on behalf...

ETA- he’s also trying to get the interrogation tossed because the officers were coercive when they continued to question him after he said he wasn’t lying. Because they just should’ve believed him and let him go. How dare they treat a fine patriot that way!

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2321 "2021-10-18T18:32:42Z")

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“I vas only followink orders!!”

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2322 "2021-10-18T20:54:18Z")

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I wonder if Trump’s vocal denials that he made any such request of anybody will affect any opinions on his side of the aisle, or if they’ll say that he’s just lying to save face (and thus throwing his supporter under the bus).

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2323 "2021-10-19T00:15:52Z")

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> **[Trump sues to try to stop the release of documents related to the Capitol riot](https://www.npr.org/2021/10/18/1047122982/trump-files-suit-to-try-to-stop-the-release-of-documents-related-to-the-capitol-)**
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> The former president is suing the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack, as well as the National Archives, to prevent the turnover of documents related to the event.

> Former President Donald Trump is suing the Democratic-led House select committee that’s investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, as well as the National Archives, to try to stop documents related to the riot from being turned over to the panel.
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> “The Committee’s request amounts to nothing less than a vexatious, illegal fishing expedition openly endorsed by [President] Biden and designed to unconstitutionally investigate President Trump and his administration. Our laws do not permit such an impulsive, egregious action against a former President and his close advisors,” the lawsuit, which was filed Monday in the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., says.
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> Trump had urged former officials in his administration not to comply with subpoenas from the House panel, citing executive privilege. However, that power applies to only the current sitting president, not former ones.  
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Blahblahblah.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2324 "2021-10-19T15:44:50Z")

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Fishing expedition. Right. Something may or may not have happened on Jan 6. The totally partisan Democrat-led investigation is trying to make something out of nothing and smear the good name of our most patriotic president ever.

(Ow, my eyes just rolled so hard I think I hurt myself.)

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2325 "2021-10-19T15:48:33Z")

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I hear a little ivermectin rubbed on the eyes will clear that right up.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2326 "2021-10-19T16:15:43Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Fishing expedition. Right.

When you see sharks swimming in your pool, it’s no longer a fishing expedition.

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2327 "2021-10-19T17:30:24Z")

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As I mentioned in the Colin Powell thread, would Trump dare go to the Capitol if Colin Powell Lies in State at the Capitol? As a former POTUS he would be invited to go wouldn’t he? Or would he be too afraid to return to the scene of the crime.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2328 "2021-10-19T18:13:00Z")

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It would be nice if Colin Powell’s family explicitly made an announcement that Trump was not welcome, but that Clinton, Bush and Obama certainly were invited.

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