# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 118
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2349 "2021-10-20T16:25:22Z")
Someone should tell Trump that when he dies he’ll get to be the center of attention. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2350 "2021-10-20T17:04:31Z")
What we need is a really good video editor who can replace Michael J. Fox with Donald J. Trump in that clip. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2351 "2021-10-21T18:29:34Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Someone should tell Trump that when he dies he’ll get to be the center of attention. And the sooner he dies, the bigger the crowds! Reminds me what was said of Theodore Roosevelt (a much better man than 45, and one of my favorite Republican Presidents), that he wanted to be the bride at every wedding, and the corpse at every funeral. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2352 "2021-10-21T21:46:51Z")
Here’s some news: > **[Online threats draw longest term yet in Capitol riot probe](https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-media-social-media-race-and-ethnicity-capitol-siege-731f419b03717a91f6e35d2584df7efd)** > > A man who pleaded guilty to posting threats on social media in connection with the riot at the U.S. Capitol was sentenced Thursday to 14 months in prison, the longest term to date resulting from the federal investigation of the insurrection. I kinda wish I could quote the whole story, there’s so many outrageous details in it. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2353 "2021-10-21T21:58:28Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I kinda wish I could quote the whole story, there’s so many outrageous details in it. These include: - He’s black and is claiming that his longer sentence is due to his skin color. - He didn’t actually participate in the riots, but did post a _lot_ of violent threats on social media in the run-up to the event. - He has a long history of fraud convictions, and has claimed to be a veteran and a colonel despite having no military record. - He had bought a plane ticket to leave the country shortly before his arrest. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2354 "2021-10-21T22:16:35Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > He’s black and is claiming that his longer sentence is due to his skin color. He said: > “I’m no Dr. King, but we do share same the skin color and the same idea of justice. I just want to be treated equally,” To which the judge replied: > “People died fighting for civil rights,” she said. “For you to hold yourself up as somehow a soldier in that fight is very audacious.” I like this judge. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2355 "2021-10-21T22:25:57Z")
I do find it odd that posting threats earned a longer sentence than actually breaking into the Capitol, but I suppose most of the sentences thus far have been for trespassing. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2356 "2021-10-25T14:03:50Z")
Usually, I don’t subscribe to this sort of stuff, but I’ve been hearing growing speculation over the past week, now speculated by people to whom I (relatively) trust, that Marjorie Taylor Greene may have been the DC pipe bomber? > > > Scott Dworkin @funder ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2357 "2021-10-25T14:07:04Z")
Well that would put her in a whole nother level of crazy! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2358 "2021-10-25T14:26:03Z")
The sad thing is that, as absolutely batshit insane as that theory is, I can’t dismiss it completely out of hand. She really does appear to be that crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2359 "2021-10-25T14:58:41Z")
Yeah, if the shoe fits… or matches, as the case may be. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2360 "2021-10-25T16:27:27Z")
Maybe O.J. Simpson will be an expert shoe witness for her at trial. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2361 "2021-10-25T16:56:31Z")
Apologies if this has already been mentioned. Rolling Stone yesterday released a story in which they interviewed two planners of the 1/6 rally. > The two sources, both of whom have been granted anonymity due to the ongoing investigation, describe participating in “dozens” of planning briefings ahead of that day when Trump supporters broke into the Capitol as his election loss to President Joe Biden was being certified. > > “I remember [Marjorie Taylor Greene](https://www.rollingstone.com/t/marjorie-taylor-greene/) specifically,” the organizer says. “I remember talking to probably close to a dozen other members at one point or another or their staffs.” > **[EXCLUSIVE: Jan. 6 Protest Organizers Say They Participated in 'Dozens' of...](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/exclusive-jan-6-organizers-met-congress-white-house-1245289/)** > > Two sources are communicating with House investigators and detailed allegations, including a promise of a “blanket pardon” from Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2362 "2021-10-25T18:17:36Z")
Don’t promise what you can’t deliver, pal: > **[Paul Gosar assured Jan. 6 protest organizers they would get a 'blanket...](https://news.yahoo.com/paul-gosar-assured-jan-6-033129864.html)** > > GOP Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona encouraged two protest organizers to plan rallies on Jan. 6 by offering pardons from former President Donald Trump, the planners told Rolling Stone. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2363 "2021-10-25T18:59:00Z")
It’s getting more and more clear that these Republicans - Gosar, Boebert, Brooks, Cawthorn, Biggs and Gohmert - took an active part in trying to overthrow the democratically elected president. To the point of dangling pardons for the stooges that they worked with to commit illegal acts. If this is allowed to stand, the US is finished as a country. This will become the norm for Republicans going forward, and they’ll just try harder next time to overthrow the goverment. Simply put, they are traitors, and need to be locked up in prison for a very long time. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2364 "2021-10-25T19:01:38Z")
Gonna say be cautious with the RS article as it seems to point to a carefully constructed ‘the violence was an accident’ theory. Despite the juicy tidbits, the one thing the article is careful NOT to state is whether violence was _planned_ at the Capitol by the named Reps when they met with the WS leaders. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2365 "2021-10-25T19:18:02Z")
And yet they dangled the promise of pardons to the demonstrators. Why the talk about pardons, if there was no plan for illegal activity? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2366 "2021-10-25T19:25:40Z")
Just saying that this is a piece of damning reporting, not a smoking gun. That’s all. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2367 "2021-10-25T19:27:20Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > And yet they dangled the promise of pardons to the demonstrators. > > Why the talk about pardons, if there was no plan for illegal activity? The pardons were “for another, unrelated investigation”. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2368 "2021-10-25T19:29:51Z")
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