# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 127
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2529 "2021-12-04T17:41:19Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > And yet she is serving on a Democrats committee Did you mean a “bipartisan Congressional committee?” ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2530 "2021-12-04T17:56:09Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Did you mean a “bipartisan Congressional committee?” That was, of course, what it was set out to be, but the GOP had little interest in participating. Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are the only two Republicans on the committee – both of them voted to impeach Trump, and they are both on the outs from GOP leadership for their stances. As noted earlier, Cheney has been ostracized from her state’s GOP organization, and Kinzinger has announced that he will not be seeking re-election next year. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2531 "2021-12-04T18:27:21Z")
It’s still a bipartisan committee if it includes sane Republicans – rather than the conspiracy-believing nutjobs they wanted to put in. It’s like they want to include proctologists in a brain surgery. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2532 "2021-12-04T18:32:40Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Weeks of public hearings “in vivid color” would likely make Republicans look very very bad, leading to electoral advantages for Democrats in November, ya think? Why is Liz Cheney all excited about that? She seems to (correctly) understand that the only hope for the GOP is to burn down the existing GQP so that the remaining relatively rational members can rebuild. Personally, I find it both more likely and preferable that the GQP burn to the ground and leave the way clear for a new two-party system formed by fissioning the existing Democratic Party into its moderate-conservative and progressive factions (similar to the dynamics after the Federalist and Whig collapses). ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2533 "2021-12-04T18:34:18Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > It’s still a bipartisan committee if it includes sane Republicans – rather than the **conspiracy-believing nutjobs** they wanted to put in. It’s like they want to include proctologists in a brain surgery. - When the head is up the ass, it’s the only choice. ---
**Author:** ![Drsunflower1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drsunflower1/32/12711_2.png) [@Drsunflower1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drsunflower1)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2534 "2021-12-05T14:30:49Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > > It’s like they want to include proctologists in a brain surgery. - > > When the head is up the ass, it’s the only choice. 🏆:golf clap: that just made my day, thank you! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2021, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2535 "2021-12-05T14:36:14Z")
I was hoping someone would comment on my analogy. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2536 "2021-12-05T17:19:08Z")
It was a talented straight line. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2537 "2021-12-05T17:24:26Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Weeks of public hearings “in vivid color” would likely make Republicans look very very bad, leading to electoral advantages for Democrats in November, ya think? I doubt it. 95% of voters already know what they think about what happened Jan. 6, and 95% of the other 5% won’t be paying attention. > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > It’s like they want to include proctologists in a brain surgery. To my mind, in this analogy Cheney is a proctologist. Not someone you want leading brain surgery, but at least someone with a medical background who understands how the body works. On the same scale, your typical GOP congressperson is a Walmart cashier. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2538 "2021-12-09T16:14:39Z")
Mark Meadows’ PowerPoint about how to work the coup has been leaked. Two click rule applies (I’m assuming): first link takes you to a tweet which explains this, and the tweet itself has a link to the PowerPoint. This way, if you’re not comfortable downloading the document, you can at least read the react: > ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2539 "2021-12-09T16:19:33Z")
Fuckin’ A, this is incredible, especially the slide entitled ‘Count-the-Ballots Top Level Plan’. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2540 "2021-12-09T16:35:11Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Mark Meadows’ PowerPoint about how to work the coup has been leaked. Yes, the content is bizarre, but I’ll just add also that this is one of the most unprofessional looking PowerPoint Presentations I’ve ever seen. High School students routinely do better. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2541 "2021-12-09T16:38:33Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Mark Meadows’ PowerPoint about how to work the coup has been leaked. - I’ll bet he stood by the screen with a stick and read every slide out loud. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2542 "2021-12-09T17:12:54Z")
If it does not have a slide that explicitly says: 1. “Storm the capital with goons, hang Pence, Kill Pelosi”| 2. ?? 3. Profit! Then it’s not a “smoking gun” ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2543 "2021-12-09T17:27:44Z")
What is the provenance of this document? How do we know Mark Meadow made it or what purpose it was intended for? The penultimate slide is a watermarked picture. If this is an authentic document it means the Whitehouse Chief of Staff was googling images to include in his slide deck, and not paying for them. Small potatoes in the grand scheme, but just more mind-blowing incompetence at the highest levels. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2544 "2021-12-09T17:29:36Z")
The document itself is part of the email archive which meadows released to the January 6th committee. The URL attached to it is the archive URL for the House of Representatives. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2545 "2021-12-09T17:47:27Z")
All it proves is that Meadows is a conspiracy believing fool who believes absolute lies, and does a shitty job making powerpoints. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2546 "2021-12-09T17:48:19Z")
The first point had been pretty definitively proved well before this, I’d say. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2547 "2021-12-09T17:51:27Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > All it proves is that Meadows is a conspiracy believing fool who believes absolute lies, and does a shitty job making powerpoints. It was a qualification for the job, tbh. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2548 "2021-12-09T17:51:27Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > All it proves is that Meadows is a conspiracy believing fool who believes absolute lies, and does a shitty job making powerpoints. - In all the history of Powerpoint, has anyone ever made a _good_ powerpoint? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=126) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=128)