# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 129
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2569 "2021-12-12T17:55:39Z")
I mean, they can try pummeling the cops in Belarus. See how successful they are at it. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2570 "2021-12-12T18:12:06Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Missing White House tapes redux? But his emails! How delicious will it be when it turns out that Donald used a private email server? ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2571 "2021-12-12T18:28:50Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > How delicious will it be when it turns out that Donald used a private email server? I’m sorry, you seem to think Republicans care about hypocrisy. For the GQP, it’s a weapon, not a motive for shame. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2572 "2021-12-12T18:41:04Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > No, that’s when the America-hating fuckstick will be filling his appeal (and some time next June > > The DC Circuit Court of Appeals only stayed the release of the documents to the House Committee for 2 weeks, or until midnight on December 23rd, for Trump to file his appeal to SCOTUS. If he waits longer than that, the appeal will be moot. > > As for what SCOTUS will do, that is far more uncertain. Sorry, I was interpreting “fall” as “get shot down.” ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2573 "2021-12-12T20:42:30Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Well, he said he was willing to _die_ , not that he was willing to live behind bars. Fair enough. Some may feel that living behind bars is the worse choice. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2574 "2021-12-12T20:48:07Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Missing White House tapes redux? That 38-slide Powerpoint show “_Election Fraud, Foreign Interference & Options for 6 Jan_" was actually a 56 1/2 slide show, but 18 1/2 of the slides were missing. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2575 "2021-12-13T03:18:26Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > How delicious will it be when it turns out that Donald used a private email server? The Republicans who absolutely lost their shit about Hillary’s emails will have _absolutely no problem whatsoever_ if Trump used a private email server with no security at all that was owned by mobsters funded by Russia. Not a single problem with that. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2576 "2021-12-13T13:54:32Z")
I bet you’re right. And see: > **[Meadows said National Guard would be ready to 'protect pro Trump people'...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/12/politics/mark-meadows-january-committee-contempt-of-congress-resolution/index.html)** > > Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows sent an email saying the National Guard would be present to 'protect pro Trump people' in the lead up to the US Capitol insurrection, according to a new report released by the January 6 committee Sunday... ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2577 "2021-12-13T13:58:02Z")
I can see why he’s too afraid to speak to the committee. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2578 "2021-12-13T15:42:24Z")
Yep. They might also ask him where the missing documents are. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2579 "2021-12-14T09:45:40Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > The Republicans who absolutely lost their shit about Hillary’s emails will have _absolutely no problem whatsoever_ if Trump used a private email server with no security at all that was owned by mobsters funded by Russia. Not a single problem with that. A reminder that 1) Trump’s precious phone was considered a massive security risk as it was easily hackable, and 2) Jared **did** use a private email server for government business, and nobody cared. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2580 "2021-12-14T15:47:28Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > A reminder that 1) Trump’s precious phone was considered a massive security risk as it was easily hackable, and 2) Jared **did** use a private email server for government business, and nobody cared. Well, to be fair, they DID still care about Hilary’s emails. Lots of caring there. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2581 "2021-12-14T17:27:43Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Well, to be fair, they DID still care about Hilary’s emails. Lots of caring there. Not “but her emails”. More “but she’s female.” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2582 "2021-12-14T18:57:47Z")
Also of interest: > **[Newly revealed text messages to Meadows undercut GOP whitewashing of the...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/14/politics/january-6-committee-mark-meadows/index.html)** > > Donald Trump Jr. was frantic. Fox News personalities who now dismiss the violence at the US Capitol were begging the White House to do something. On January 6, then-President Donald Trump wasn't listening to his kids or his media enablers. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2583 "2021-12-14T19:15:25Z")
Never thought Donny Jr. would be considered a voice of “moderation.” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2584 "2021-12-14T21:10:20Z")
I think it was more a voice of “Holy shit, these assholes you’ve unleashed are going to kill people, and then the shit will hit the fan and I will lose my power to grift the rubes!” ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2585 "2021-12-14T21:16:34Z")
Looks like contempt charges now for Meadows. The Committee can’t allow him to delay like Bannon; they need him in front of the cameras while this issue is hot. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2586 "2021-12-14T21:17:54Z")
Also “I’d better go through Meadows with this, daddy gets mad if I talk to him directly!” ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2587 "2021-12-14T22:12:34Z")
From the CNN article (bolding mine): > **One of the unnamed lawmakers** apologized the day after the Capitol riot for failing to stop the counting of electoral votes in key states Trump lost. > > “We tried everything we could in our objection to the six states,” they told Meadows, according to a message read by Rep. Adam Schiff, a California Democrat on the committee. “I am sorry nothing worked.” > > **Another lawmaker** texted Meadows before January 6 insisting then-Vice President Mike Pence reject electoral votes, repeating back to the White House the proposal that was reportedly put forward in a [much-discussed 38-page power point presentation](https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/11/politics/mark-meadows-documents-2020-election/index.html) that was seen as a recipe for a coup. > > “On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all,” the lawmaker told Meadows, according to the committee. Why are these assholes’ names being withheld? ---
**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2588 "2021-12-14T22:19:42Z")
From our old stomping grounds: [Local gets arrested](https://www.sanmiguelcountyco.gov/civicalerts.aspx?AID=1062). Sheriff Bill Masters is the only (I believe) libertarian Sheriff in the country, and he doesn’t pull any punches. McCracken has a long history of child abuse, sexual assault and other unsavory actions. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=128) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=130)