# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 148
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2949 "2022-02-16T22:13:36Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > [WH Staff Say Trump Blocked Toilet by Flushing Documents: Report (businessinsider.com)](https://www.businessinsider.com/wh-staff-trump-blocked-toilet-flushed-wads-paper-report-2022-2) > > i was wondering when “the plumbers” (watergate reference) would get involved. I wonder if the call logs were among the documents he tried flushing. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2950 "2022-02-16T22:43:12Z")
It was Trump logs he was trying to flush. I’ll show myself out. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2951 "2022-02-16T22:49:39Z")
Whomever called that Rudy 9/11 would walk back his promise to cooperate with the Jan. 6 commission: [Rudy Giuliani Now Casts Doubt About Cooperating With ‘Illegal’ Jan. 6 Committee (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rudy-giuliani-now-casts-doubt-about-cooperating-with-illegal-jan-6-committee/ar-AATWSNm?cvid=304d65787e54460fe7af4bf954458344&ocid=winp1taskbar) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2952 "2022-02-16T23:08:40Z")
“Accused bank robber refuses to cooperate with “criminal” police investigation.” Sure buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2953 "2022-02-16T23:57:12Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > It really _does_ seem to be a prophesy about Donald! > > Nonsense-he’s yielded plenty of meals! I do _not_ want to think about what that may be intended to convey. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2954 "2022-02-17T13:50:49Z")
I was thinking of the piles of fast food he had ready for athletes visiting the White House, but thanks for the additional hideous image. 🤢 ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2955 "2022-02-17T15:00:22Z")
When one is dealing with Rudy, or trying to predict his behavior, it helps to remember that if he’s awake, he’s drunk. A crony of Rudy’s wrote about meeting him in bar to present his theories on election fraud. Rudy had been in the bar for while before this person arrived, and stayed after he left. During the 90 minute meeting, Rudy consumed 9 scotches, or one every 10 minutes. This was the evening before his hair dye ran down his face. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2956 "2022-02-17T16:32:47Z")
Color me surprised… or not. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2957 "2022-02-17T20:59:44Z")
I think the color was used 90wt oil. What is it with these idiots. That thing that Trump has on his head. And remember Stephan Miller with his spray on hair? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2958 "2022-02-17T21:03:08Z")
I haven’t thought about Stephen Miller in months. I wonder if he crawled back under a rock? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2959 "2022-02-17T23:41:28Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I was thinking of the piles of fast food he had ready for athletes visiting the White House, but thanks for the additional hideous image. 🤢 When it comes to Donald, hideous images are impossible to avoid. (I _had_ forgotten the ‘piles of Big Macs’ photo, to be sure.) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2960 "2022-02-17T23:46:50Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > (I _had_ forgotten the ‘piles of Big Macs’ photo, to be sure.) meh, they’d just get a little cold, that’s all. 😄 🤮 ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2961 "2022-02-18T01:14:47Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > When one is dealing with Rudy, or trying to predict his behavior, it helps to remember that if he’s awake, he’s drunk. > > A crony of Rudy’s wrote about meeting him in bar to present his theories on election fraud. Rudy had been in the bar for while before this person arrived, and stayed after he left. During the 90 minute meeting, Rudy consumed 9 scotches, or one every 10 minutes. > > This was the evening before his hair dye ran down his face. And there was this reporter who recounted his intoxicated behavior while rambling one delightful day. > [@](#): > > Over a sweater, he wore a navy-blue suit, the fly of the pants unzipped… > > His ex-wife had [implied, in an interview with _New York_](http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/08/judith-giuliani-rudy-giuliani-divorce.html), that he was an alcoholic. Others anonymously question his mental state. “Oh yeah, yeah — I do a lot of drugs,” Giuliani said sarcastically. “There was one I was addicted to. I’ve forgotten what it is. I don’t know where the drug things come from — I really don’t. The alcohol comes from the fact that I did occasionally drink. I love Scotch. I can’t help it. All of the malts. And part of it is cigars — I love to have them with cigars. I’m a partyer.”… > > As he spoke, he fixed his gaze straight ahead, rarely turning to make eye contact. When his mouth closed, saliva leaked from the corner and crawled down his face through the valley of a wrinkle. He didn’t notice, and it fell onto his sweater… > > The hostess led us through a hallway to the dining room. As Giuliani walked down the carpeted ramp, he fell over to his right and hit the wall. He kept on walking as if it hadn’t happened… > > “I’d like some sparkling water. And I know you have wonderful Bloody Marys,” Giuliani told the waiter. “Yes, sir,” the waiter said, “and I know you love them.” Giuliani laughed. “You’re a good man!,” he said… > > He lifted the skewer of olives from his Bloody Mary and removed one with his teeth. He continued speaking as he chewed. He ordered a second Bloody Mary… > **[A Conversation With Rudy Giuliani Over Bloody Marys at the Mark Hotel](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/a-conversation-with-rudy-giuliani-over-bloody-marys.html)** > > “If they’re investigating me, they’re a\*\*holes,” he said. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2962 "2022-02-18T04:06:43Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > This was the evening before his hair dye ran down his face. > [@enipla](#): > > I think the color was used 90wt oil. Someone on this Board (was it **Broomstick** , IIRC?) suggested that it was embalming fluid. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2022, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2963 "2022-02-18T14:09:07Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I haven’t thought about Stephen Miller in months. I wonder if he crawled back under a rock? [No, he’s spreading a slime trail in my neck of the woods.](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/586910-mccormick-getting-support-from-trump-alumni-ahead-of-senate-bid-in) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2964 "2022-02-20T17:01:16Z")
So sorry for you, and for all Pennsylvanians. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2965 "2022-02-22T13:01:22Z")
Thank you. We also have Dr. Oz and [Carla Sands](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carla_Sands) to deal with here, but it’s the scorpions you don’t see that are the most dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2966 "2022-02-22T16:44:17Z")
A bit of good news on the legal front: > **[U.S. Supreme Court formally ends Trump's fight over Capitol attack records](https://www.aol.com/news/u-supreme-court-formally-ends-145516807-152516631.html)** > > The former president had asked the U.S. Supreme Court to block the release of White House records sought by the House panel probing the deadly Jan. 6 riot by a mob of his supporters. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2967 "2022-02-22T18:55:23Z")
I think it needs to be emphasized that Trump has also used extra-legal means to hide records, such as ripping them up, flushing them down the toilet and hiding them at his home. These are the actions of a criminal, who is attempting to cover up his crimes. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/2968 "2022-02-23T14:40:05Z")
barbara mcquade has written a model prosecution memo on jan. 6th, using public records, reporting, and books. very nice to have everything in one place and spelled out. [United States v. Donald Trump (justsecurity.org)](https://www.justsecurity.org/80308/united-states-v-donald-trump-model-prosecution-memo/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=147) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=149)