# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 152
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3029 "2022-03-09T16:38:04Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > Guy was used as an example today to make all the 1/6ers take a plea. Do not take a plea, 1/6ers. Do not. “Your proposal is acceptable…” ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3030 "2022-03-09T16:40:18Z")
I think that she is _hoping_ they won’t take a plea but instead get harsh sentences. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3031 "2022-03-09T16:40:52Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > “Your proposal is acceptable…” When I read her comment, I misread "1/6ers " as “lifers” and thought, “well, if that’s what it takes…” ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3032 "2022-03-09T16:41:21Z")
As the jury in the Producers said “We find the defendants _incredibly_ guilty” ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3033 "2022-03-09T16:50:07Z")
She just doesn’t want her husband to get lonely in jail. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3034 "2022-03-09T17:00:20Z")
Or she already has #2 in mind… ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3035 "2022-03-09T17:06:38Z")
Well, #1 is a piece of #2, so she’d be consistent. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3036 "2022-03-09T21:26:13Z")
Doesn’t exactly fit here, but it is related: > **[Republican county clerk indicted in voting-machine breach, arrest warrant issued](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/03/republican-county-clerk-indicted-in-scheme-to-leak-voting-machine-passwords/)** > > Tina Peters indicted on 10 counts for "deceptive scheme" to leak confidential data. Brian ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3037 "2022-03-09T22:07:37Z")
It totally fits. Republicans, who abuse the voting system claim that the voting system is being abused, and therefore the results are flawed, so, RIOT!!! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3038 "2022-03-10T01:17:30Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > …His defense argument was mainly that Reffitt was a habitual braggart and loudmouth with a habit of indiscreetly shooting off his mouth, so everything he said was probably just bragging and exaggeration and not to be taken seriously. That, apparently, was pretty much the entire defense… ISTR the DOJ saying pretty much the same thing about some orange dude’s tweets from 2017-2021. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3039 "2022-03-10T14:19:56Z")
Because of _course_ they would: [RNC sues January 6 committee to block subpoena of Salesforce records | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/09/politics/rnc-lawsuit-january-6-subpoena-salesforce/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3040 "2022-03-14T20:08:12Z")
Winning! > **[The 4 pillars to convicting alleged January 6 US Capitol rioters | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/12/politics/capitol-riot-prosecutions/index.html)** > > Trials are already scheduled in the DC District Court through the end of the year, including for the far-right Oath Keepers charged with seditious conspiracy. ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3041 "2022-03-15T14:13:01Z")
[https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/14/politics/ginni-thomas-interview-january-6/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/14/politics/ginni-thomas-interview-january-6/index.html) > “Federal recusal law says that any justice ‘shall disqualify’ if their impartiality might reasonably be questioned,” said Gabe Roth of Fix the Court, a group seeking more transparency from Supreme Court justices. > > “Here Virginia Thomas attended the rally on the ellipse, she is close to those who have been subpoenaed by the Committee and she is involved in several groups that have cast doubt on the results of the 2020 election,” he said. Yeah, good luck with that. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3042 "2022-03-16T22:29:35Z")
A Georgia county Republican Chairwoman (and her husband) was arrested for her involvement in the 1/6 insurrection. > **[Republican county chairwoman arrested in Jan. 6 investigation](https://www.ajc.com/news/investigations/republican-county-chairwoman-arrested-in-jan-6-investigation/YJI2APGSEBDGROFDAXVHKZE4HU/)** > > Republican county chairwoman Mandy Robinson-Hand arrested in Jan. 6 investigation ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3043 "2022-03-19T15:06:08Z")
> [@ctnguy](#): > > WV state rep Derrick Evans, who live-streamed himself entering the capitol, arrested by FBI. > [@mhendo](#): > > Evans has now resigned from his political post. Guilty! > **[Former West Virginia legislator who stormed Capitol pleads guilty](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/former-west-virginia-legislator-stormed-capitol-pleads-guilty-rcna20646)** > > Derek Evans, who filmed himself on Jan. 6, 2021, screaming, "Derek Evans is in the Capitol!," is set to be sentenced on June 22. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3044 "2022-03-19T17:19:04Z")
[quote=“Skywatcher, post:3043, topic:930020”] > [@ctnguy](#): > > WV state rep Derrick Evans, who live-streamed himself entering the capitol, arrested by FBI. I like his defense that he was there as an “independent member of the media”. I guess Nazis and Ku-Kluxers will start wearing press badges now? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3045 "2022-03-21T16:10:50Z")
> **[Exclusive: Witness Claims Trump's Chief of Staff Was on Phone Call Planning...](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/jan6-trump-mark-meadows-capitol-attack-republicans-1324218/)** > > Trump’s team encouraged supporters to march, but tried to “make it look like they went down there on their own,” Scott Johnston says. > [@](#): > > Johnston’s account suggests there was a deliberate strategy by Trump’s allies to have supporters descend on the Capitol. Such a connection would implicate top White House and campaign officials in drawing crowds to Congress without a permit — a step that could have required added security and may have allowed law enforcement to better prepare for the day’s events. Those crowds overwhelmed the Capitol police and engaged in an hours-long battle with law enforcement. Four people died during the attack. > > According to Johnston, rally organizers were “constantly” using “burner phones” — cheap, prepaid cells that can be harder to trace because they’re not personally identified with a user or a user’s account — “to talk about” potential permits and plans for a march with Trump aides. > > Johnston says that, in the key phone conversation he overheard, the group settled on ordering a march without an official permit. “Nobody wanted to do it because they didn’t want to pay for it,” Johnston says of obtaining a permit. “They didn’t want to have to provide security and all the other expenses.” Evil AND cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3046 "2022-03-21T18:44:55Z")
Here’s a non-paywalled version of the story. > **[Mark Meadows Helped Plan Jan. 6 Rally, Witness Told Congress](https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7wyv3/mark-meadows-jan-6-rally-witness)** > > A witness reportedly told the Jan. 6 committee that Meadows was on a call to plan the march to the Capitol that devolved into a deadly riot. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3047 "2022-03-21T18:52:16Z")
[Democrats have used false election returns in the past as well.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckshot_War) I’m really just including it as a point of historical interest. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3048 "2022-03-21T19:59:38Z")
_1838?!_ In what sense is that even the same Democratic Party? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=151) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=153)