# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 153
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3049 "2022-03-21T20:11:28Z")
Remember that in 1838, Democrats were the Conservative party. Per the party’s Wikipedia page: ‘Before 1860, the Democratic Party supported limited government and state sovereignty’ ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3050 "2022-03-21T20:31:11Z")
I should state that I’m not at all trying to say the two incidents are the same, more that election interference and violence resulting from it is of course not a new issue. > [@thorny\_locust](#): > > In what sense is that even the same Democratic Party? Oh, it certainly isn’t the same. But it sounds familiar. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3051 "2022-03-21T23:35:20Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Per the party’s Wikipedia page: ‘Before 1860, the Democratic Party supported limited government and state sovereignty’ As I understand it, the Whigs were the party of “internal improvements” to better the country. Building railroad tracks and canals, and the like. … I’m not such where this should go, but I figured it’s applicable here as an anecdote about the controversy over the election: I went to a luncheon last week where the guest speaker was the local supervisor of elections. It’s a Republican district, and he said twice that he was a “Reagan Republican”. The rest of the speech, however, was blasting the insane bullshit that he has faced from the right wing. He recounted death threats he’d received, and the racial slurs his chief assistant has endured. He specifically called out the misinformation from Fox News, and then asserted that he had become an expert at debunking election fraud myths. A place has “more votes than registered voters”? They were comparing 2020 votes with 2016 voter rolls. People were counting mail in ballots that had never been folded? He demonstrated how they often received back torn or stained ballots, and had to recreate them on clean ballots so that they could be counted. Vote totals changed after the polls closed? He explained (similar to discussions here) how mail in ballots were being counted in the days after the election, and because of Trump’s rhetoric they were heavily democratic, which means the changes were consistent with expectations. By the end, he was exasperated. Trump won this district, yet he’s still being bombarded with hostility, such as the mass duplicate emailing he sometimes gets. This is in Florida, by the way. Ground zero for the crazy, I’m afraid. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3052 "2022-03-22T19:34:00Z")
An insurrectionist has received asylum in Belarus. > **[Capitol Riot Suspect Evan Neumann Wins Asylum in Belarus](https://www.thedailybeast.com/capitol-riot-suspect-evan-neumann-wins-asylum-in-belarus)** > > Evan Neumann turned up in the country late last August—and almost immediately began spewing Kremlin talking points on Belarusian state television. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3053 "2022-03-22T19:39:37Z")
Enjoy your new life! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3054 "2022-03-22T22:51:35Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > An insurrectionist has received asylum in Belarus. > [@Aspenglow](#): > > Enjoy your new life! - Yeah, I’m sure that Belarus dictator Lukashenko will be VERY welcoming to anyone who advocates for the overthrow of a current government… ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3055 "2022-03-22T22:53:37Z")
LOL, agreed. Honestly, this is better than him facing the criminal justice system in this country. I wonder if they will let him return to the USA when he figures this out. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3056 "2022-03-22T23:01:30Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > … I wonder if they will let him return to the USA when he figures this out. A very reasonable question. One suspects that dude is going to find out his cherished “freedom” doesn’t actually exist in Belarus. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3057 "2022-03-23T00:31:42Z")
I predict borscht gets old really fast. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3058 "2022-03-23T00:36:20Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > One suspects that dude is going to find out his cherished “freedom” doesn’t actually exist in Belarus. > [@Moriarty](#): > > I predict borscht gets old really fast. - Honestly, it’s the best laugh I’ve had all day!! I hope more of them seek asylum in Belarus or Russia! ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3059 "2022-03-23T00:37:57Z")
[Carbonated borscht.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec3d9BWGTdo) ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3060 "2022-03-23T00:38:06Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I hope more of them seek asylum in Belarus or Russia! I’ve heard there’s good work to be had schlepping gas cans to a stranded caravan. Definitely better than 30 days jail! ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3061 "2022-03-23T00:44:38Z")
LOL, exaaaaaaaaaaaaaaactly!!! And he thought “Don’t say gay!” was cool. Wait till it’s “Don’t say war!” Or “Don’t say, ‘I’m being oppressed!’” Or, “We don’t call it a draft, Comrade. We call it patriotic conscription! Now go. Die happily for your new country!” ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3062 "2022-03-23T00:55:41Z")
That carbonated borscht video isn’t that far off from reality. McDonalds left Russia. But Russia doesn’t need McDonalds. They are repurposing the locations, and Uncle Vanya’s is almost the same thing. Right? > **[Moscow's 'Uncle Vanya's' fast-food chain unveils new logo following McDonalds...](https://www.cityam.com/moscows-uncle-vanyas-fast-food-chain-unveils-new-logo-following-mcdonalds-exit-from-russia/?amp=1)** > > A Russian fast-food chain is readying itself to become Russia’s own version of McDonalds after unveiling a new logo that bears a number similarities to ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3063 "2022-03-23T05:04:17Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I hope more of them seek asylum in Belarus or Russia! Russia is getting kind of hard up for soldiers. Perhaps the asylum seekers will be drafted into the army and sent to fight the Ukrainian “nazis”. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3064 "2022-03-23T09:39:19Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > McDonalds left Russia. But Russia doesn’t need McDonalds. They are repurposing the locations, and Uncle Vanya’s is almost the same thing. And maybe a McDowell’s franchise as well. [![](https://static3.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Louie-Anderson-Coming-To-America-Header.png?q=50&fit=crop&w=960&h=500&dpr=1.5) ](https://static3.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Louie-Anderson-Coming-To-America-Header.png?q=50&fit=crop&w=960&h=500&dpr=1.5) ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3065 "2022-03-23T13:17:17Z")
thank you for this link, and starting my day with a laugh. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3066 "2022-03-23T14:38:50Z")
In Russian McDonald’s, you don’t deserve a break today! ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3067 "2022-03-23T14:51:38Z")
You’re lovin’ it…or else. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3068 "2022-03-23T15:09:15Z")
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