# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 161
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3209 "2022-05-21T12:54:06Z")
I wish the general public could be educated about coups, and why they’re not a good idea. Seems like it’s “it failed, so no harm, no foul”. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3210 "2022-05-21T23:36:40Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I wish the general public could be educated about coups, and why they’re not a good idea. Seems like it’s “it failed, so no harm, no foul”. - Part of this may be the regrettable human tendency to reason poorly about disastrous outcomes. Another example: Y2K. Many people say “that was no big deal; all the fuss was unnecessary.” It doesn’t occur to them that without “the fuss”—all the work that was done to stave off potential disaster—Y2K could have been a very big deal indeed. With the coup, many people are anxious to conclude “the system worked; the guardrails worked” because that permits them to avoid thinking about how nearly the coup succeeded—and all the work that we would need to accomplish to make the USA truly coup-proof. Anything that permits people to say ‘no big deal’ has the virtue of permitting them to stop thinking about difficult topics, and turn their attention to trivial, ‘fun’ topics. (And there’s not a lot that can be done to change this tendency.) ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3211 "2022-05-22T12:23:17Z")
Remember when the riot started, and they showed a bunch of militia types, in their gear, ascend the steps in a single line formation? Where did they go from there? They had 3 hours to commit mischief, and they seemed to be half-assed organized and with a purpose. What were they doing all that time? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3212 "2022-05-23T18:51:06Z")
Ginni Thomas’s actions around the election are looking worse and worse: > **[Ginni Thomas' emails deepen her involvement in 2020 election](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/ginni-thomas-emails-deepen-her-involvement-in-2020-election)** > > Newly discovered emails show that Virginia "Ginni" Thomas, wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, was more deeply involved in baseless efforts to overturn the 2020 election than previously known. > In the days after The Associated Press and other news organizations called the presidential election for Biden, Thomas emailed two lawmakers in Arizona to urge them to choose “a clean slate of Electors” and “stand strong in the face of political and media pressure.” The AP obtained the emails under the state’s open records law. TL;DR: she was an active advocate for voter fraud and ignoring the results of a – by all accounts – free and fair election that didn’t go her way. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3213 "2022-05-23T20:52:47Z")
I’m sure that Ginny Thomas has more than one outfit, yet every picture I see of her is in that red clown suit. Does nobody have any other pictures of her? (And if she _is_ in need of more clothes, might I suggest an orange jumpsuit?) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2022, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3214 "2022-05-23T21:07:01Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > (And if she _is_ in need of more clothes, might I suggest an orange jumpsuit?) - Do those come in a particularly appropriate shade? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2022, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3215 "2022-05-23T22:45:06Z")
Insurrectionist tries to tell a judge that his trip to Mexico was an emergency. Judge isn’t buying it. > **[Jan 6 Guy Who Tried To Get Away With A Cabo Trip Got Burned By Judge](https://uproxx.com/viral/jan-6th-insurrectionist-cabo-trip-request/)** > > Jason Douglas Owens waited until the last minute to make an emergency travel request and the judge was not having it. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3216 "2022-05-24T03:58:00Z")
YAY! I bet that resort in Cabo is thrilled, too……especially after that “vegan but not crazy strict” bullshit. Cabo don’t care, dude…Cabo just wants to know what to feed your seditionist ass. What that response tells Cabo is “I’m going to be a total pain in the ass about my food, I’m going to bitch and whine about being vegan at every meal and if I detect a hint of butter near my plate I’m going to act like you tried to feed me cyanide tipped glass shards, but three minutes after the waiter leaves I’m going to call him back over and send back the vegan meal and ask for a rare bacon cheeseburger because it just smells so good, and I will do something like this at EVERY SINGLE MEAL.” It’s a passive-aggressive dick move. I bet Cabo is very relieved. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3217 "2022-05-24T08:41:07Z")
I really recommend reading Judge Howell’s whole (not very long) statement, because it is an absolute gem. She is having none of his shenanigans. > ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3218 "2022-05-24T12:59:45Z")
it is amazing how many people think trying to hoodwink the court is a good idea. my favourite line: “While the Court does not begrudge defendant’s apparent business success while on pretrial release, his international travel to harvest the bounties of such success will need to wait until he is no longer facing felony charges arising from ill-advised domestic travel in January 2021.” and favourite technical legal term: boondoggle ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3219 "2022-05-24T13:21:24Z")
Also: > [@](#): > > furnishing such business-critical data as his t-shirt and shoe sizes (“Mens L” and “Mens 10 1/2”), favorite color (“Blue”), willingness to receive delivered alcoholic beverages (“Yes”), and special dietary request (“Vegan, but not too crazy strict”). “Business-critical data”. Snerk. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3220 "2022-05-24T13:43:23Z")
She should obviously be Biden’s next SCOTUS pick. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3221 "2022-05-24T16:06:55Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > “Business-critical data”. Snerk Yes, what in the hell was that? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3222 "2022-05-24T16:10:23Z")
Mockery. That’s what it was. Note that the guy had requested an “emergency motion to travel” to “a corporate meeting” or “work-related conference”. She’s snarking about the fact that this vital work function he needed emergency leave to attend involved t-shirts, booze and for some reason knowledge of his favorite color. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3223 "2022-05-24T16:12:47Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > and for some reason knowledge of his favorite color Needed to cross the Bridge of Death. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3224 "2022-05-24T16:35:21Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > for some reason knowledge of his favorite color. It’s a business retreat. They are probably handing out T shirts. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3225 "2022-05-24T16:56:39Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > It’s a business retreat. They are probably handing out T shirts. Shoes too? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3226 "2022-05-24T16:57:24Z")
I guess so. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3227 "2022-05-24T18:37:30Z")
it is not a business retreat. it is a sales reward, basically a trip instead of a money bonus. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3228 "2022-05-24T18:47:39Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > I’m sure that Ginny Thomas has more than one outfit, yet every picture I see of her is in that red clown suit. Does nobody have any other pictures of her?   Not so! Note this much-reprinted photo of her, cheerleading hubby’s legal depredations with a pom-pom. (Hint: The person in red, partially visible at the far right of the photo, isn’t Ginni Thomas.) [![](https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/clarence-thomas-wife-is-helping-trump-purge-snakes-from-the-white-house-and-replace-them-with-fox-news-regulars.jpg?id=24724874) ](https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/clarence-thomas-wife-is-helping-trump-purge-snakes-from-the-white-house-and-replace-them-with-fox-news-regulars.jpg?id=24724874) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=160) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=162)