# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3229 "2022-05-24T19:20:47Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> > It’s a business retreat. They are probably handing out T shirts.
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> Shoes too?

Probably some sort of cheap flip-flops or water shoes with a corporate logo.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3230 "2022-05-26T13:11:15Z")

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Loyalty rewarded:

> **[Trump reacted with approval to 'hang Mike Pence' chants from rioters on...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/25/politics/donald-trump-january-6-mike-pence-chants/index.html)**
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> A former aide to Trump White House chief of staff Mark Meadows told the House January 6 committee that then-President Donald Trump had suggested to Meadows he approved of the "hang Mike Pence" chants from rioters who stormed the US Capitol, two...

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3231 "2022-05-26T14:10:54Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Loyalty rewarded:

There simply wasn’t _enough_ loyalty, at least when it counted.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3232 "2022-05-29T02:44:41Z")

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The guy with the Hitler mustache and haircut tried to claim that he didn’t know that Congress meets in the Capitol, but he was convicted on five charges, anyway.

> **[Hitler-loving Capitol rioter is convicted of all 5 charges against him](https://deadstate.org/hitler-loving-capitol-rioter-is-convicted-of-all-5-charges-against-him/)**
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> A New Jersey man alleged to have white supremacist leanings and who rioted at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, was convicted this Friday on all five charges against him, including a felony charge of obstruction of an official proceeding, NBC News...

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3233 "2022-05-29T02:57:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The guy with the Hitler mustache and haircut tried to claim that he didn’t know that Congress meets in the Capitol

So he thought they met in the Reichtag?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3234 "2022-05-31T17:20:09Z")

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Hashtag #Reichstag?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2022, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3235 "2022-05-31T17:31:41Z")

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Heischstag!

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3236 "2022-05-31T18:20:17Z")

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I remember every detail. The Germans wore grey. You wore blue.

[**H/T**](https://www.quotes.net/mquote/15867)

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2022, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3237 "2022-06-01T03:05:09Z")

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Burn down the Reichstag, blame it on the communists. Storm the Capitol, blame it on Antifa and BLM.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3238 "2022-06-01T16:36:02Z")

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> **[Father-Son Duo Who Joined Crowd in Forcing Capitol Doors Open on Jan. 6 Get...](https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-breach/father-son-duo-who-joined-crowd-in-forcing-capitol-doors-open-on-jan-6-get-time-behind-bars/)**
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> A father-son duo from the Midwest who admitted to interfering with police trying to control the riotous crowd during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol have been sentenced to time behind bars—one month for the father and four months for the son.

> That their actions that day came down to a “split second” decision doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be held accountable, the judge noted.
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> “That is the case with a lot of crimes,” said Friedrich, a Trump appointee. “Many, many defendants are held responsible for impulsive decisions they made in seconds.”

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3239 "2022-06-02T12:19:47Z")

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Remember how all those corporations promised to stop giving money to seditionists after January 6th?  
There been a lot of reporting about the companies that broke those promises.

Now, here’s some recognition for the 85 (out of 249) companies that KEPT their promises.

> **[Promises kept: The companies not funding sedition - CREW | Citizens for...](https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-reports/promises-kept-the-companies-not-funding-sedition/)**
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> Lyft, Target, Whirlpool are among the handful of companies that have kept their promise not to give to the Sedition Caucus.

The full list is at the bottom of the very good - but long - article.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3240 "2022-06-02T18:52:36Z")

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Thanks, Ann! After seeing this, I’ve made some changes to where I buy things - and now I just have to write some letters to tell them why.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3241 "2022-06-03T00:09:04Z")

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I’m assuming that this is not one of those cases where “corporate contributions” counts what the employees donate of their own accord, right?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3242 "2022-06-03T12:45:10Z")

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The latest from the Capitol:

> **[The panel investigating January 6 will be trying to shock open-minded...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/03/politics/january-6-committee-hearing-prime-time/index.html)**
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> Key pieces of the plan to recreate the madness and fear of January 6, 2021, when American democracy itself was on the brink, began to fall into place Thursday as details of key witnesses for an upcoming hearing emerged -- as well as new and powerful...

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3243 "2022-06-07T22:30:11Z")

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When the hearings begin on Thursday in prime time, all the TV networks will be covering it – except Fox, of course.

There goes our last hope of anyone hearing the truth for the first time.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3244 "2022-06-08T00:03:15Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> When the hearings begin on Thursday in prime time, all the TV networks will be covering it – except Fox, of course.
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> There goes our last hope of anyone hearing the truth for the first time. -

The hearings are clearly news.

That Fox is choosing not to cover it\* should be further proof, if any were needed, that “Fox News” is an entertainment channel, not a news channel. And thus cable customers should not be forced to pay for it (as all are now) unless they want to opt-in to pay for it. Just like with STARZ and other entertainment options.

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\*/ Many Fox-defenders are claiming that Fox IS covering the hearings since they will show them (or part of them) on the Fox Business channel. But that channel averages fewer 500,000 viewers per night, versus the 3 million + that watch Fox News.

It’s also been suggested that since Fox News is openly admitting they are not a news organization, they should no longer receive press passes for White House briefings or any other events for which passes are needed.

> **[Fox News is Betraying Its Own Viewers — and Selling Out the Country — With...](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-is-betraying-its-own-viewers-and-selling-out-the-country-with-disgraceful-decision-not-to-air-jan-6-hearing/)**
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> Fox News' decision to not air the Jan 6th hearing may make sense from a business perspective, but it disgracefully puts profit over principle for a news outlet.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3245 "2022-06-08T01:59:38Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> It’s also been suggested that since Fox News is openly admitting they are not a news organization, they should no longer receive press passes for White House briefings or any other events for which passes are needed.

Here’s the story covering that angle:

> **[Former GOP staffer suggests Fox doesn't deserve White House press access if...](https://www.rawstory.com/fox-news-hearings/)**
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> On MSNBC Tuesday, former Republican Party spokesman Kurt Bardella tore into Fox News for refusing to carry coverage of the upcoming January 6 hearings in Congress.Fox has said that coverage of the hearings will be relegated to its business channel,...

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3246 "2022-06-08T09:19:01Z")

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Sounds to me like Faux has already considered this, and that’s why…

> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> \*/ Many Fox-defenders are claiming that Fox IS covering the hearings since they will show them (or part of them) on the Fox Business channel. But that channel averages fewer 500,000 viewers per night, versus the 3 million + that watch Fox News.

…will do just enough to cover their asses.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3247 "2022-06-08T12:35:06Z")

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It really frustrates me that because Fox isn’t carrying the hearings, my mom will probably never know about them. She barely pays attention to the news anyway, although it doesn’t stop her from loving Trump and hating Democrats.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3248 "2022-06-08T12:54:02Z")

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The committee could buy commercial time on fox and have the message get through that way.

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