# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 169
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3369 "2022-06-29T19:55:29Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Trump doing something physical??? I know. He had said that he was going to walk/march to the Capitol. Considering the amount of ambulances and fire trucks that might have been involved in that, it could have ended up being a better outcome ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3370 "2022-06-29T21:44:10Z")
_Biden_ could have marched to the Capitol… ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3371 "2022-06-29T22:05:05Z")
Hey, Biden could’ve easily biked to the Capitol… . …and then fallen over. . :~} ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3372 "2022-06-29T22:45:03Z")
BTW, regarding the Trump ordered that the “mags” or metal detectors be disabled or removed, where was this? At the White House? At the Capitol Building? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3373 "2022-06-29T22:47:17Z")
At his rally. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3374 "2022-06-29T22:49:57Z")
OK, thanks. Weird that earlier this month when he spoke at the NRA convention, people were not allowed to have guns at his speech. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3375 "2022-06-29T22:54:38Z")
That’s an NRA rule for the convention. Weird, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3376 "2022-06-30T04:07:14Z")
They like to live dangerously. After all, more guns at the convention would have made it extra safe. right? Right? ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3377 "2022-06-30T11:26:48Z")
Pretty sure that’s a rule of the convention center, not one made by the NRA. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3378 "2022-06-30T11:28:03Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > That’s an NRA rule for the convention. No, it was only when Trump was there: [https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/national-verify/guns-not-banned-at-nra-convention-but-are-during-trumps-speech/536-ac6d498e-fe9c-4dcb-8efa-3e3c6b71aa38](https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/national-verify/guns-not-banned-at-nra-convention-but-are-during-trumps-speech/536-ac6d498e-fe9c-4dcb-8efa-3e3c6b71aa38) This link is directly to the NRA firearm policy, not sure why it has a weird preview: [https://www.nraam.org/attend/firearms-policy/](https://www.nraam.org/attend/firearms-policy/) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3379 "2022-06-30T21:07:02Z")
Nm nm ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3380 "2022-06-30T22:45:50Z")
> [@tofor](#): > > Pretty sure that’s a rule of the convention center, not one made by the NRA. It probably is, years ago we went to a NRA convention in Phoenix and guns carried and shown off proudly. ---
**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3381 "2022-07-01T18:28:38Z")
> **[Fact check: The Secret Service, not the NRA, is prohibiting attendees of...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/05/27/fact-check-guns-banned-from-trump-nra-speech-over-secret-service-policy/9947390002/)** > > Visitors to the NRA's annual conference can carry firearms, but the Secret Service is prohibiting firearms from a forum featuring Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3382 "2022-07-01T18:34:40Z")
Yep, like I said, it wasn’t the NRA. Things have changed though. Many years ago, we went to a different gun show that had a presidential candidate. As is normal, at least half the attendees were carrying guns. The very embarrassed protection squad were taking people’s signs on sticks away because while the guns were apparently OK, the sticks could be used to hit someone. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3383 "2022-07-27T16:49:22Z")
AG Caspar Milquetoast speaks out: > **[Merrick Garland calls Justice Department's Jan. 6 probe the 'most...](https://www.aol.com/news/merrick-garland-does-not-rule-191547844.html)** > > In an interview with NBC News’ Lester Holt, Garland suggested that the federal criminal investigation has moved far beyond the rioters who attacked the Capitol. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3384 "2022-07-28T12:59:40Z")
And another plea: > **[Jan. 6 rioter accused in attack of Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/27/politics/tanios-sicknick/index.html)** > > A January 6 rioter accused in the assault of Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick pleaded guilty on Wednesday to disorderly conduct and entering and remaining in a restricted area in connection to the US Capitol attack. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3385 "2022-07-28T19:14:13Z")
I like that language. If they get to the point where they think they are able to indict and obtain convictions for interference with the peaceful transfer of power, I’d say the evidence available to the public looks pretty darned strong against a number of people. And - as a long time fed myself - I’ll observe that the feds are EXTREMELY loathe to indict if they aren’t AWFULLY confident in their chances of success. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3386 "2022-07-30T14:23:34Z")
> **[Alleged Oath Keeper Thomas Caldwell had a 'death list' including the name of...](https://www.businessinsider.com/oath-keeper-thomas-caldwell-death-list-name-of-election-official-2022-7)** > > While searching alleged Oath Keeper Thomas Caldwell's home, police found he had a "death list" that included the name of a Georgia election official. > [@](#): > > “This document is not a ‘list’ but, rather, a doodle pad. The words ‘death list’ are written in all caps, whereas the balance of writing on the doodle pad is written in upper and lower case letters,” read the defense’s [motion to exclude the note pad evidence](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22123779-us-v-caldwell-opposition-response?responsive=1&title=1). Move over, doodle pad defense - there’s now the brilliant “in CAPS / lower case” defense. > [@](#): > > “Moreover, the words ‘death list’ are separated from the **names of the election workers** by scribbled writing, and were clearly written with a different pen. **There are no other names on the 'list,** ’ because it is not a list. Importantly, the names written on the doodle pad were not, as the Government claims, election ‘officials’ but, rather, temporary election workers.” Am I seeing a slight contradiction in the bolded? If there are names of election workers, how many of them are required to constitute a “list”? And _at least_ it was just those expendable, worthless 🫣_temporary_ election workers, and not the legitimate, real-deal election officails, thank Og!1! Good thing Caldwell’s no longer with the FBI. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3387 "2022-07-30T16:43:18Z")
If I’m on a Death List, I demand to be upper and lower case, and cursive. In fact, I demand _Old Roman Majuscule Cursive_, which should be sufficiently illegible. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3388 "2022-07-30T17:11:47Z")
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