# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3389 "2022-07-30T17:50:55Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> there’s now the brilliant “in CAPS / lower case” defense.

e e cummings and bell hooks better watch their backs.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3390 "2022-07-31T00:29:12Z")

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I read the quotes from the defence objections to Mrs Piper, former criminal lawyer.

She said “This is their defence?”

“Apparently so, “ i replied.

“Oh my God” she said.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3391 "2022-07-31T02:44:36Z")

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A reasonable response.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3392 "2022-07-31T04:54:46Z")

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All caps, upper and lower case letters, clearly written with a different pen but not red ink?  
WTF is this a SovCit ‘That’s not MY name that’s my strawman’s name. BOB SHIT4BRAINS is my Corporate Fiction! I’m Bob of the Family Shit4Brains!’ defense?

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3393 "2022-07-31T06:39:15Z")

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To think, after decades, we finally have something that makes the Twinkie Defense look like sound legal strategy.

On second thought, the Twinkie Defense kinda worked.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3394 "2022-07-31T09:10:48Z")

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I demand comic sans.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3395 "2022-07-31T09:57:08Z")

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> There are no other names on the ‘list,’ because it is not a list.

Everybody who has been on this board for a good long while knows a list needs at least three items.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3396 "2022-07-31T11:33:15Z")

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> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> To think, after decades, we finally have something that makes the Twinkie Defense look like sound legal strategy.

I don’t think you actually understand what the Twinkie Defense actually was about.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/HPfG7jaGn08/maxresdefault.jpg "The Strangest Legal Defenses (That Worked!)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPfG7jaGn08&t=211)

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3397 "2022-07-31T14:37:03Z")

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Minor, but still warrants mentioning: although most folks (at least I hope) would get from context, yada yada, that that quote wasn’t from me, it’d still be cool if the quote attribition was correct.  
Party on.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3398 "2022-07-31T14:43:58Z")

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Reminds me of the Michigan AG race some years back. The Republican candidate was named “Cox”. The Democrat was named “Peters”. Cox won but Peters is now one of our US Senators.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3399 "2022-07-31T14:56:00Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Reminds me of the Michigan AG race some years back. The Republican candidate was named “Cox”. The Democrat was named “Peters”. Cox won but Peters is now one of our US Senators. -

Sword fight!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3400 "2022-07-31T15:22:46Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Minor, but still warrants mentioning: although most folks (at least I hope) would get from context, yada yada, that that quote wasn’t from me, it’d still be cool if the quote attribition was correct.

“42% of internet quotes are misattributed”, Abraham Lincoln.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3401 "2022-08-01T20:28:12Z")

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“As everyone knows, 67.3% of all statistics are made up.” - Gandhi

A sentencing update:

[Guy Reffitt: Jan. 6 rioter who carried gun to US Capitol and threatened Nancy Pelosi gets more than 7 years in prison | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/01/politics/guy-reffitt-sentencing/index.html#:~:text=(CNN)%20A%20federal%20judge%20on,insurrection%2Drelated%20sentence%20to%20date).

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3402 "2022-08-01T20:43:14Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> A sentencing update

I am glad his daughter is blaming Trump

> “My father’s name wasn’t on all the flags that were there that day, that everyone was carrying that day. He is not the leader,” Peyton said through tears, at times pausing with her hand on her heart.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3403 "2022-08-01T21:18:53Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> A sentencing update:

> Reffitt was adamant in earlier hearings about being the first January 6 defendant to take his case to trial. But on Monday, in plea for leniency in advance of his sentencing, he said that he was a “f\*\*_ing idiot" who was parroting "founding fathers and stupid sh_t like that” around January 6, and that he doubled down on that rhetoric to “garner money” for his family during the course of his legal battle.

He tried to play the Trump game of “Grift the Rubes”, but lost.

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3404 "2022-08-01T21:33:40Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> He tried to play the Trump game of “Grift the Rubes”, but lost. -

It’s much harder to play the game when you’re one of the pieces.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3405 "2022-08-01T21:40:31Z")

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“I’M GOING TO TAKE MY JANUARY 6TH DEFENSE TO THE PEOPLE!”

The People:

> **[SmartNews - Discover your world every day](https://share.smartnews.com/aJfuP)**
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> SmartNews is the most efficient way to get all your news now.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3406 "2022-08-02T03:03:01Z")

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From @Elendil_s_Heir 's CNN article:

> The hefty sentence, paired with the fact that **every January 6 defendant to face a jury has been convicted**

They’re not getting much traction with that “just a patriot who’s trying to save the Republic” stuff

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3407 "2022-08-02T16:46:52Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> “I’M GOING TO TAKE MY JANUARY 6TH DEFENSE TO THE PEOPLE!”
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> The People:
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> [https://share.smartnews.com/aJfuP](https://share.smartnews.com/aJfuP)

Well, the judge imposes a sentence, not The People, but I take your point. And she is a Trump appointee, FWIW.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3408 "2022-08-02T16:58:21Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Well, the judge imposes a sentence, not The People, but I take your point. And she is a Trump appointee, FWIW.

Well, the orange one was not able to totally corrupt every appointment. A few bad apples who do their job according to an upright moral code sometimes slip in. That and they are largely immune to retaliation.

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