# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3530 "2022-09-07T15:40:22Z")

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Yup. Sorry if I was a little obscure. It seemed like the sort of thing a MAGAT would fall for.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3531 "2022-09-07T17:46:37Z")

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Yeah, real cute.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3532 "2022-09-07T19:57:08Z")

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I wonder how quiet Jay Johnston’s’ career has been.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3533 "2022-09-12T21:58:25Z")

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It would seem the public-facing efforts of DOJ’s investigation into the events of January 6th are ramping up. By a lot.

Gift link:

> **[Justice Dept. Issues 40 Subpoenas in a Week, Expanding Its Jan. 6 Inquiry...](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/12/us/politics/trump-aides-jan-6-doj.html?unlocked_article_code=EBPoYnN5q6zgfleMA3KGx0-4H4OMqW693DKrAKGWIySkKlx3-M9zIWDfvlH-4_XoPeiPh0BtHJw5CT45qKMcLI_yOoH0G-Bk4Hl1Mhoy403ECGqRnv3MU5pEkXJHfCa_wm2QR0tRoH0Fj3KISQb9c-KWgFIAjpPGyrjLX8hYeM7OnoMVpZFShqK-ruRYzn4MVkN0o5yEO1cwwVRu5UPQtq-Ec41Tb1VCkR_SwOwtXlqiRW6R5l-AeeNnIRlorqRWsskp7lqVmVI0oaepydwqDYfvl1RURFVp-B5u59JYTl6AxUFcYxb9QhwrE13oDwA9S6wRiYN0eVvnUpezLOFPMJ1Nlto&smid=share-url)**
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> It also seized the phones of two top Trump advisers, a sign of an escalating investigation two months before the midterm elections.

From the article:

> According to one subpoena obtained by The New York Times, they asked for any records or communications from people who organized, spoke at or provided security for Mr. Trump’s rally at the Ellipse. **They also requested information about any members of the executive and legislative branches who may have taken part in planning or executing the rally, or tried to “obstruct, influence, impede or delay” the certification of the presidential election**.

(Emphasis mine.)

Sounds like some folks in Congress should be getting nervous.

I’m also glad to see names like Dan Scavino, Bernard Kerik and Boris Epshteyn among the newly-subpoenaed individuals.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3534 "2022-09-13T13:23:53Z")

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Here’s CNN’s coverage of the DOJ’s latest barrage:

> **[Justice Department subpoena storm broadens Trump's potential legal woes | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/13/politics/trump-world-justice-department-subpoenas-analysis/index.html)**
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> A strikingly broad subpoena sweep against more than 30 former officials and campaign aides of ex-President Donald Trump represents the clearest sign yet of the seriousness of the Department of Justice's criminal probe into events surrounding the US...

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3535 "2022-09-14T16:59:23Z")

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More good news:

> **[Three January 6 rioters charged in assault on officers found guilty of...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/13/politics/january-6-rioters-guilty-felony/index.html)**
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> Three January 6, 2021, rioters involved in one of the most brutal assaults on police during the attack at the US Capitol were found guilty on Tuesday of several felonies following a bench trial before a federal judge.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3536 "2022-09-15T13:19:59Z")

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Innnnnnnnnteresting!

> **[Exclusive: Mark Meadows complied with DOJ subpoena in January 6 probe | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/14/politics/mark-meadows-subpoena-justice-department-january-6/index.html)**
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> Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows has complied with a subpoena from the Justice Department's investigation into events surrounding January 6, 2021, sources familiar with the matter tell CNN, making him the highest-ranking Trump official...

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3537 "2022-09-15T15:52:40Z")

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There goes his Cabinet appointment…

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3538 "2022-09-15T16:57:29Z")

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The January 6 Committee is getting lots of info from the Secret Service now.

[https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/january-6-committee-secret-service-records](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/january-6-committee-secret-service-records)

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> Lofgren told MSNBC that the Secret Service has handed over a “large volume” of “very pertinent” material in response to the Jan. 6 committee’s subpoena since the panel’s last hearing in July.
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> “There’s texts, there’s emails, there’s radio traffic, there’s all kinds of information,” Lofgren said
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> “There is now a very steady flow of data coming in to the committee, and it’s a huge amount,” she added.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3539 "2022-09-15T17:54:23Z")

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About time, I’d say. What, were they trying to run out the clock?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3540 "2022-09-15T17:55:53Z")

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Did he comply but just start repeating “I plead the 5th” over and over again?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3541 "2022-09-15T17:58:16Z")

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Ornato retired. I’m wondering if that released some (internal) political floodgates.

Also, Biden is their boss, correct? He has a very keen grasp on wielding power, pretty sure his message of ‘comply or else’ got through to any and all in the USSS. Hence Ornato’s sudden desire to spend more time with his family.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3542 "2022-09-15T18:06:02Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Hence Ornato’s sudden desire to spend more time with his family.

He’s said that he plans to join the private sector. Maybe he’s aiming for Head of Security at Mar-a-Lago.

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**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3543 "2022-09-15T20:44:08Z")

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Pffft, like that’s a thing.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3544 "2022-09-15T21:29:26Z")

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[No shit.](https://newsinteractive.post-gazette.com/anna-de-rothschild-trump-mar-a-lago-security-fbi-investigation/)

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3545 "2022-09-15T21:42:36Z")

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Paywalled. I assume it’s a story about that Chinese national who was lurking about MAL and arrested?

> **[Chinese national arrested for loitering Mar-a-Lago club](https://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-palm-beach-county/palm-beach/possible-trespassing-incident-at-mar-a-lago-miami-herald-reports)**
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> A Chinese national is charged with illegally entering President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago club, the second time this year that has happened.

Oh, wait. From the URL, it looks like it was this story (ad walled, not paywalled):

> **[FBI probes Ukrainian-born ‘heiress’ who posed as Rothschild, gained access to...](https://www.timesofisrael.com/fbi-probes-ukrainian-born-heiress-who-posed-as-rothschild-gained-access-to-trump/)**
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> Inna Yashchyshyn, or 'Anna de Rothschild,' said to have infiltrated Mar-a-Lago, currently at center of investigation into ex-president's removal and handling of classified files

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3546 "2022-09-15T22:50:28Z")

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> [@Borborygmi](#):
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> Pffft, like that’s a thing.

Does he know that? 😃

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3547 "2022-09-16T16:55:18Z")

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I agreed with DOJ that a special master shouldn’t be appointed. But now that one has been, I’m hopeful that this guy will do the job and do it well:

> **[What to know about Raymond Dearie, the judge who will serve as Mar-a-Lago...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/12/politics/who-is-raymond-dearie-special-master-candidate-trump-doj/index.html)**
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> US District Judge Raymond Dearie will serve as the special master tasked with reviewing the documents seized from Mar-a-Lago.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3548 "2022-09-16T17:04:38Z")

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I wonder if anyone ever jokingly called him Blossom.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3549 "2022-09-16T17:04:54Z")

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There’s this:

> Cannon’s schedule means the review will end after the midterm congressional elections, essentially guaranteeing the Mar-a-Lago investigation will move slowly for the next two months, unless a higher court steps in.

Also,

> Beyond Dearie, Trump’s legal team had suggested lawyer Paul Huck Jr., a former partner at the Jones Day law firm, as special master – a proposal the DOJ disagreed with, noting he “does not appear to have similar experience” to Dearie and two retired federal judges the department put forth.

Not just not having “similar experience,” but

> **[How lawyers from one giant DC firm influenced Trump's Supreme Court picks](https://www.npr.org/2022/09/13/1122536384/trump-lawyers-jones-day-servants-of-the-damned-david-enrich)**
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> Servants of the Damned author David Enrich says lawyers from the firm of Jones Day were deeply embedded in the Trump White House — and helped create policy designed to limit the federal government.

Great interview. There’s a transcript at the link. Chilling stuff.

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