# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 179
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3570 "2022-10-13T19:57:36Z")
And this!: > **[Texas family of 5 sentenced in Jan. 6 case](https://www.aol.com/texas-family-5-sentenced-jan-190100822.html)** > > The mother and father received brief prison sentences, while the adult children were given probation for their roles in the assault on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3571 "2022-10-13T22:52:07Z")
The family that riots together, diets together (on prison food). ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3572 "2022-10-13T22:57:49Z")
14 WHOLE days! ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3573 "2022-10-14T01:56:21Z")
It’s called “deterrence” 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3574 "2022-10-14T13:13:16Z")
Based on what I heard in yesterday’s final (?) Jan 6 hearing, it sounds like some heads need to roll at the FBI and Secret Service. Starting at the top and working down. They knew in advance that there were going to be a ton of heavily armed protesters, and did nothing to stop it. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3575 "2022-10-14T15:48:17Z")
I’m rather surprised it hasn’t been mentioned- I did search. The show Bob’s Burgers fired the voice actor for Jimmy Pesto for participating in the riot. > **[‘Bob’s Burgers’ Actor Jay Johnston Will No Longer Voice “Jimmy Pesto” After...](https://decider.com/2021/12/19/bobs-burgers-actor-jay-johnston-will-no-longer-voice-jimmy-pesto-after-participating-in-capitol-riot/)** > > As of right now, the actor hasn't been charged or arrested for any crime. ETA - Hypno Toad mentioned in passing - sorry if it’s been discussed and I didn’t see it. It happened last year, I just recently read about it. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3576 "2022-10-14T16:04:41Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > The show Bob’s Burgers fired the voice actor for Jimmy Pesto for participating in the riot. I remember that guy from _Mr. Show_. Damn shame he turned out to be a traitor. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3577 "2022-10-17T23:20:51Z")
I read this Atlantic article first thing this morning before the sun was even up. It left a bad taste in my mouth all day. So, of course, I wanted to share. To my credit, I wondered all day whether I should. Not much is new here. It’s an excerpt from a new book, _[Unchecked: The Untold Story Behind Congress’s Botched Impeachments of Donald Trump](https://bookshop.org/books/unchecked-the-untold-story-behind-congress-s-botched-impeachments-of-donald-trump/9780063040793)_. A concise, detailed, name-naming, organized blow-by-blow recounting of the events of Jan 6 from the pov of Congressional leaders who were sequestered in safe places. Significantly, for a couple of hours McConnell located his gonads and some bipartisanship happened. > **[What Republicans Really Thought on January 6](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2022/10/january-6-republican-gop-response-trump-capitol/671752/?utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share)** > > The president turned his back on seemingly everyone. Some interesting parts: > … > > Although Republicans have since rallied behind the former president, that day, the chasm between GOP leaders and Trump could not have been wider. From their lockdown off campus, **in a series of previously unreported meetings, McConnell and other GOP leaders would turn to their Democratic counterparts for assistance** in browbeating the Pentagon to move the National Guard to send armed troops to the Hill. Together, the bipartisan leaders of Congress, agreed in their conviction that Trump was stonewalling if not outright maneuvering against them, joined forces to do what the president would not: Save the Capitol. > … > … > Around 3:40 p.m., an hour and a half after the breach occurred, McConnell’s patience gave out. He stormed out of the room and crossed the hall to find Pelosi, Schumer, and Hoyer. “What are you hearing?” McConnell asked his Democratic counterparts as the other GOP leaders followed him into the room. “Do you know what the holdup is with the Guard?” > > They didn’t know any more than he did. At a loss, Pelosi and Schumer had just signed off on a joint statement demanding that Trump call for an end to the violence. Everyone knew it was little more than a gesture. It was time to bring the combined weight of all four congressional leaders to bear on the administration. > … > … > It was too much for McConnell to stomach. After the senator had spent four years trying to accommodate the president’s demands, Trump had threatened _his_ Capitol, and McConnell was finally done with him. Congress had to certify Biden as the next president, and they had to do it that night, in prime time, he insisted. The whole country had to know that Trump had lost, and that his gambit to cling to power had failed. > > There was one major impediment to McConnell’s plan. Capitol Police were saying the building would not be secure enough to welcome lawmakers back that night… > > To McConnell, waiting until morning was entirely out of the question. > … Blahblahblah. Here’s the sad punch line (which we all know already): > … > Mere days later, when Democrats moved to impeach Trump for inciting the riot, Republicans balked. Both McCarthy and McConnell voted against impeachment, and Pence, whose aides had steamed about Trump while in hiding, barred his staff from testifying at Trump’s second trial. In the months since, GOP leaders have done their utmost to bury the truth of what happened that day—leaving Republican voters with the distinct impression that Trump and his followers did nothing wrong. > … Have a nice evening. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3578 "2022-10-18T18:04:18Z")
As ever in the Trump Era, I am often appalled, but rarely surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3579 "2022-10-18T19:16:55Z")
I guess we already kinda knew something like that happened since McConnell and crew must have been terrified and outraged during and immediately after the attack but couldn’t trip over themselves fast enough to cover trump’s butt during the impeachment attempts. But yes, it is sobering to read it written out in more detail. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3580 "2022-10-18T22:06:58Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > I guess we already kinda knew something like that happened since McConnell and crew must have been terrified and outraged during and immediately after the attack but couldn’t trip over themselves fast enough to cover trump’s butt during the impeachment attempts. The Democratic Congressional leaders should have known better than to wait. They should have impeached and convicted Trump that night. Even if they had to suspend counting the electoral votes to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3581 "2022-10-18T23:00:41Z")
Hindsight is great. Tell me, were you calling for impeachment charges on the evening of January 6th? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3582 "2022-10-18T23:01:59Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I read this Atlantic article first thing this morning before the sun was even up. It left a bad taste in my mouth all day. So, of course, I wanted to share. To my credit, I wondered all day whether I should. Not much is new here. It’s an excerpt from a new book, _[Unchecked: The Untold Story Behind Congress’s Botched Impeachments of Donald Trump](https://bookshop.org/books/unchecked-the-untold-story-behind-congress-s-botched-impeachments-of-donald-trump/9780063040793)_. The book’s authors were interviewed on the New Right-ish CNN today\*; they were hitting hard on ‘Trump got away with it all because the Democratic leaders were cowardly and declined to go after him when they could have, and when they finally did decide to go after him, it was too late—the American Public had moved on.’ Remember that the Articles of Impeachment (2.0) had been voted in by the House on JANUARY 13, which by my count is seven days after the shocking footage from Jan 6 hit the nation’s disbelieving eyes. But the idea that ‘Dems waited TOO LONG’ was what the authors were selling today. No thanks. Not buying. > / \* I’m not going to post a link (none may be available yet) because I was so disgusted by the CNN pandering to the right that I really don’t want to promote them. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3583 "2022-10-19T00:38:38Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Tell me, were you calling for impeachment charges on the evening of January 6th? I sure the hell was. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3584 "2022-10-19T02:07:00Z")
If so, I applaud you for your foresight. Most everybody I know, me included, were just hoping that Pence and Congress could get the electoral college vote count confirmed. I wasn’t thinking about much else at that point. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3585 "2022-10-19T02:35:13Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Hindsight is great. > > Tell me, were you calling for impeachment charges on the evening of January 6th? I didn’t make any public announcements. I was thinking it, though, but you’ll have to take my word for it. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3586 "2022-10-19T03:33:41Z")
FWIW, I just took a trip down memory lane by browsing this thread, and impeachment was first mentioned at 4:12 PM on January 6th 2021 by @FlikTheBlue . Apologies in advance if I missed an earlier mention. > [@6 January 2021; A Day worth a Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/6-january-2021-a-day-worth-a-thread/929770/411): > > I wonder if Pelosi and McConnell can organize a quick impeachment and conviction from whatever bunker they are hiding in. That’s another option. I’m still less than halfway through the old thread, but the possibility of a quick impeachment was mentioned several times. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3587 "2022-10-19T11:36:18Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > I wasn’t thinking about much else at that point. Perhaps you’re right — that I wasn’t thinking “impeachment” specifically — but I absolutely, distinctly recall thinking in real time “this is an attempted coup, and Trump must be punished severely for his clearly treasonous act of urging this mob to end the American experiment in democracy.” ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3588 "2022-10-26T20:49:43Z")
kevin seefried ( the person with the confederate flag in the capital) and his son hunter (both from delaware) have been found guilty and sentenced to 2 years. [Delaware man who stormed US Capitol on January 6 with father gets 2 years in prison - 6abc Philadelphia](https://6abc.com/us-capitol-jan-6-insurrection-delaware-man-sentenced/12381208/) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3589 "2022-10-26T21:03:29Z")
That knucklefuck should have been locked up merely for bringing that flag into the U.S. Capitol building. Traitor bastard. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=178) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=180)