# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/342 "2021-01-12T03:20:28Z")

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Did trump buy the Post or something? Or are tinfoil hats “office casual” there?

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/343 "2021-01-12T03:31:55Z")

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I’ve been following this thread pretty closely, but it’s moving quickly so I’m not sure if anyone has posted this story yet.

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> Earlier, Rep. Tim Ryan, D-Ohio, had said one of the suspended officers took a selfie with a rioter, and another donned a Make America Great Again hat and “started directing people around.”
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> Ryan chairs the House subcommittee that is investigating the police response to last Wednesday’s riot. He also said that about 10 to 15 other Capitol Police officers are under investigation.

> **[Capitol Police Officers Suspended For Actions During Rioters' Attack On Capitol](https://www.npr.org/2021/01/11/955809557/two-capitol-police-officers-suspended-for-actions-during-rioters-attack-on-capit)**
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> One suspended officer took a selfie with a rioter. Another donned a MAGA hat and "started directing people around," Rep. Tim Ryan said. Other officers are under investigation.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/344 "2021-01-12T03:35:20Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> I wonder - were the (easily breached) barricades any different than those normally in place?

Normally, there are no barricades. Those are there in preparation for the inarguration.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/345 "2021-01-12T05:59:35Z")

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Here’s some aftermath:

> **[Early warning signs emerge for GOP after US Capitol riots](https://apnews.com/article/gop-democrats-political-parties-4af2fff712c75315dab989c6c807f6fd)**
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> HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — Since last week’s deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, about 225 Republicans logged in to the election office in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, to change their party registration.

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> In the 36 hours after last week’s deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, 112 Republicans reached out to the election office in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, to change their party registration.

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> In Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, 192 people have changed their party registration since the Jan. 6 riot. Only 13 switched to the GOP — the other 179 changed to Democrat, independent or a third party, according to Bethany Salzarulo, the director of the bureau of elections.
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> In Linn County, Iowa, home to Cedar Rapids, more than four dozen voters dropped their Republican Party affiliations in the 48 hours after the Capitol attack. They mostly switched to no party, elections commissioner Joel Miller said, though a small number took the highly unusual step of cancelling their registrations altogether.

Just a trickle so far…

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/346 "2021-01-12T07:20:25Z")

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Warnings of the frantic evacuation and huddled sequestration becoming a super-spreader event because of intransigence by asshole Republicans are being confirmed.

> <https://twitter.com/RepJayapal/status/1348871117407203328>

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/347 "2021-01-12T07:54:59Z")

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Companies have hit the pause button on donations. Some to all politicians, but many more to those who voted against accepting the results of the election.

From [here](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-11/here-are-the-u-s-companies-hitting-pause-on-political-donations):

A particularly good one

> HALLMARK CARDS: The maker of greeting cards was very specific in the [message](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-11/hallmark-wants-two-gop-senators-to-return-campaign-contributions) it wants to send U.S. Senators Josh Hawley and Roger Marshall: Give us our money back. The Kansas City, Missouri-based company said it’s seeking reimbursement for the $7,000 it donated to Hawley, of Missouri, and the $5,000 it gave newly elected Marshall, of Kansas, over the last two years. The Republicans objected to the certification of electors for President-elect Joe Biden.

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**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/348 "2021-01-12T14:07:52Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Did trump buy the Post or something?

No. Rupert Murdoch did, though.

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/349 "2021-01-12T14:53:59Z")

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I hope they enclosed the request in a “Happy Inauguration Day, Traitor” card.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/350 "2021-01-12T15:59:32Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/_rVsRmcE-u8/maxresdefault.jpg "Lawyer Reacts to Lectern-Rioter's Lawyer #shorts") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rVsRmcE-u8)

Legal Eagle did a short (minute) analysis of some of the comments by the defence attorney for the guy who stole the lectern. Pretty funny. 🙂

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/351 "2021-01-12T16:06:39Z")

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That was excellent, although it’s not so much analysis as incredulity.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/352 "2021-01-12T16:07:17Z")

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I was rushing in here to post the same thing!

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/353 "2021-01-12T16:17:05Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> Legal Eagle did a short (minute) analysis of some of the comments by the defence attorney for the guy who stole the lectern.

That was great. Why would they admit or say anything? Zip it!

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/354 "2021-01-12T16:28:31Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> That was excellent, although it’s not so much analysis as incredulity.

Sometimes the incredulity _is_ the analysis.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/355 "2021-01-12T16:29:26Z")

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Harvard has removed a New York Republican Congresswoman from the advisory committee for its Institute of Politics.

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> “My request was not about political parties, political ideology, or her choice of candidate for president. Rather, in my assessment, Elise has made public assertions about voter fraud in November’s presidential election that have no basis in evidence, and she has made public statements about court actions related to the election that are incorrect,” Elmendorf said. “Moreover, these assertions and statements do not reflect policy disagreements but bear on the foundations of the electoral process through which this country’s leaders are chosen.”

[https://thehill.com/homenews/house/533797-harvard-removes-gop-lawmaker-from-advisory-committee-over-election-claims](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/533797-harvard-removes-gop-lawmaker-from-advisory-committee-over-election-claims)

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/356 "2021-01-12T16:32:49Z")

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(Response to lawyer video.) Holy shit, that’s hilarious. Having worked for a couple years at a defense attorney’s office, doubly so. _Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!_ How in the hell did this guy get through law school and pass the bar? Maybe he practices bird law.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/357 "2021-01-12T16:33:39Z")

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AP: Breaking News: President Trump takes no responsibility for violent insurrection, says remarks to supporters were “totally appropriate.” Trump says he wants “no violence.”

No story yet just the headline in a BN banner.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/358 "2021-01-12T16:35:33Z")

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Well, no surprise there.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/359 "2021-01-12T16:36:25Z")

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What I would rather see than impeachment of Trump, who wouldn’t really suffer anything other than symbolic consequences anyway, is for a thorough effort to publicize what happened and to shame and humiliate any citizen, any company, any company executive, any “media”, any law enforcement officer, any faceless bureaucrat, any service member, and any legislator that had _anything_ to do with the insurrection _and_ the misinformation campaign leading up to it. And to hold **them** accountable.

The images of police officers being beaten and chased, of white nationalists yelling the n-word, destroying and pillaging our capitol, ought to be replayed over and over and over again so that they are seared into public consciousness, so that we never forget this trauma - like the scenes of airplanes crashing into the Twin Towers on 9/11. It should be no different.

We should then use that elevated awareness to go immediately after Senators Cruz, Hawley, Kennedy, and others to pressure them into resignation, or if not that, then to make them as politically toxic as possible that the RNC pressures them into retirement. We should embarrass the benefactors who funded their campaigns even just casually.

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This has to happen – over and over again.

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/361 "2021-01-12T16:40:03Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> > [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> > Legal Eagle did a short (minute) analysis of some of the comments by the defence attorney for the guy who stole the lectern.
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> That was great. Why would they admit or say anything? Zip it!

They were on CNN with Cuomo.  
I sure hope they’re not charging him cause that would be robbery.

> **[Adam Johnson's Lawyers Say He Looted in Capitol to Witness History](https://www.mediaite.com/crime/lawyers-for-maga-fan-who-stole-pelosis-lectern-claim-their-client-is-actually-pro-law-enforcement-was-looting-in-capitol-to-witness-history/)**
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> Lawyers for MAGA fan caught stealing Pelosi's lectern claim their client is actually 'pro-law enforcement,' was looting in Capitol to 'witness a little bit of history'

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