# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3630 "2022-11-18T20:54:54Z")

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in oath keeper trial news, closing arguments are happening. those that testified in their own defense did not do well under cross exam. wonder how long the jury will go, there are a lot of charges to get through.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3631 "2022-11-18T21:09:46Z")

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Not sure if this has been posted, but the DOJ is getting results.

> **[Man who blamed Trump’s ‘orders’ for Jan. 6 riot sentenced](https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-biden-crime-donald-trump-congress-df05987ca4a6e065573695c7b50df991?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=RelatedStories&utm_campaign=position_02)**
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> WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge on Friday sentenced an Ohio man who claimed he was only “following presidential orders” from Donald Trump when he stormed the U.S. Capitol to 3 years in prison. Dustin Byron Thompson was convicted in April by a jury...

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3632 "2022-11-18T22:13:54Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> jack smith will soon be getting a bit dump from the congressional committee. that should make things interesting.

To be clear, [anything from the 1/6 Committee will have to implicate the iJDiT.](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/11/18/ag-merrick-garland-trump-special-counsel/10712493002/)

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**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3633 "2022-11-21T20:49:02Z")

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riley williams guilty on 6 counts, sentencing in 90 ish days. jury deadlocked on the pelosi laptop charges.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3634 "2022-11-22T15:41:52Z")

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the oath keepers’ trial is now in the hands of the jury. they have quite a lot to get through and have thanksgiving looming over their shoulders.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3635 "2022-11-22T18:00:48Z")

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Yeah. Sure we have to follow the rule of law, but it’s on video and audio. What more do you need? I say the same about Trump.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3636 "2022-11-26T08:07:43Z")

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Okay, I’m not offering this up as proof of anything, especially the meme of FBI Agitators Started the January 6 Riot stuff. I’m just curious about this Jimmy Dore guy. Anybody here got the 411 on him?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3637 "2022-11-26T09:40:37Z")

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His most famous song was “Pilot of the Airwaves” which rose to #14 in 1979…

Oh, wait, I’m thinking of _Charlie Dore_. Jimmy Dore? He might have been that Disney cricket for all I know…

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3638 "2022-11-26T10:57:21Z")

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[Only his wiki page.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Dore) Doesn’t sound that appealing to me.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3639 "2022-11-26T17:28:11Z")

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It probably would have helped if I had posted the Youtube link of his claiming the FBI “admitted” to having agitators in the January 6 crowd. After reading that wiki link, I don’t think I’ll bother.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3640 "2022-11-27T01:08:40Z")

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> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> Jimmy Dore

I claim that Jimmy Dore is actually an FBI plant himself. His job is to infiltrate the insurrectionists by gaining their confidence. Then he’ll turn them all in.

If Jimmy is NOT an FBI source, let him prove me wrong.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3641 "2022-11-27T01:16:54Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Oh, wait, I’m thinking of _Charlie Dore_. Jimmy Dore? He might have been that Disney cricket for all I know…

Heh. You know, my first thought was the _pun that’s so pathetic it might not even be there at all_ from the old SQUADRON SUPREME comic…

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3642 "2022-11-27T04:08:20Z")

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> [@scabpicker](#):
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> Jeebus, first one of those I’ve ever seen where they think it’s intentional. From the article:
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> > “The evidence will show the Defendant made numerous statements before and after the fatal collision on Interstate 55 which establish his intent to enter upon the highway for the purpose of striking another vehicle,” the petition said.

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a car is a good guy with a car.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3643 "2022-11-29T14:14:38Z")

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What are the odds he tells them anything they don’t already know?

> **[Former White House deputy chief of staff meeting with January 6 committee...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/29/politics/tony-ornato-january-6-committee/index.html)**
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> The House select committee investigating the Capitol riot is interviewing former White House deputy chief of staff Tony Ornato on Tuesday, a potentially key witness whose testimony could shed new light on former President Donald Trump's movements...

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3644 "2022-11-29T16:50:58Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> What are the odds he tells them anything they don’t already know?

Seriously. We watched it on live television. They want to rope in some others? Fine, do it. But the head traitor needs to go to prison.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3645 "2022-11-29T19:24:38Z")

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[Jurors Have Questions About the Justice Department’s Most Serious Count in the Oath Keepers Trial: Seditious Conspiracy (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/jurors-have-questions-about-the-justice-departments-most-serious-count-in-the-oath-keepers-trial-seditious-conspiracy/ar-AA14ESWT)

looks like they are at the top charge, and needed a bit of clarification.

it is always interesting to learn how the juries go through the evidence and charges. there are so many ways they could go through this; with multiple people and charges being involved.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3646 "2022-11-29T21:29:37Z")

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At this point I don’t think there is much the J6 committee doesn’t already know. I’m guessing now it’s mostly corroboration, seeing how everyone’s stories line up.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3647 "2022-11-29T21:44:13Z")

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verdict is in on the oath keepers’ trial. standing by…

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3648 "2022-11-29T22:19:06Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/RobLegare/status/1597715696884256768?t=dmjzf2yk6YX31SiznefIHQ&s=19>

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3649 "2022-11-29T22:20:33Z")

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More details:

> **[Oath Keepers founder guilty of sedition in U.S. Capitol attack plot](https://news.yahoo.com/u-jury-reaches-verdict-trial-214559022.html)**
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> WASHINGTON (Reuters) -Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes, and another leader of the right-wing group, were found guilty on Tuesday of seditious conspiracy for the attack on the U.S. Capitol by Donald Trump supporters, an important win for the...

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