# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/362 "2021-01-12T16:41:12Z")

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It was “a perfect speech.”

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/363 "2021-01-12T16:51:15Z")

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Well, I can safely say I know who I would not hire to defend were I ever to be brought up on charges in Florida.

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**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/364 "2021-01-12T17:00:53Z")

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I wonder if this Rep will end up in prison

> **[Trump reportedly blamed 'antifa people' for Capitol siege, was told by GOP...](https://theweek.com/speedreads/960333/trump-reportedly-blamed-antifa-people-capitol-siege-told-by-gop-house-leader-no-maga)**
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> The latest Speed Read,/speed-reads,,speed-reads, breaking news, comment, reviews and features from the experts at The Week

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> One freshman Republican, Rep. Nancy Mace (S.C.) said on the call she’s “disappointed” that “QAnon conspiracy theorists” are not only leading the party, but also led the objections after members of Congress had to walk by a crime scene to get back to work Wednesday night, [_Politico_ reports](https://www.axios.com/mccarthy-antifa-capitol-siege-trump-c5b347ad-f902-40f4-9f42-6120fa927137.html). And Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (R-Wash.), one of a handful of House Republicans weighing voting to impeach Trump, slammed Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) for tweeting House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calf.) location during the siege, putting all members at risk. Boebert raised hackles on the call by suggesting Capitol Police had been involved in the siege, _Politico_ says.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/365 "2021-01-12T17:26:17Z")

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The Republicans are rallying around themselves. You might hear reports of internal strife but note how quickly they’re playing the unity-not-justice card. They will push everything back on the Democrats, and the next time the violence will be worse.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/366 "2021-01-12T17:30:51Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Warnings of the frantic evacuation and huddled sequestration becoming a super-spreader event because of intransigence by asshole Republicans are being confirmed.

Can those assholes who refused to wear masks be charged with something?

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/367 "2021-01-12T18:04:36Z")

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Did the lectern stealer actually get it all the way home? I take it he doesn’t live in DC. Did he come on a bus? Put it in the bike rack?

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/368 "2021-01-12T18:07:18Z")

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I think I read that he actually ended up leaving it in the building somewhere, but I’m not sure if that’s really what happened.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/369 "2021-01-12T18:09:11Z")

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I wondered about that. I also wonder if a theft charge can stick if he really just moved it to another part of the building, but I’m not a lawyer.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/370 "2021-01-12T18:10:34Z")

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If it got so much as a scratch on it he’s gonna be sorry.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/371 "2021-01-12T18:23:13Z")

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What happened to the laptop that was stolen from Nancy Pelosi’s office?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/372 "2021-01-12T18:54:03Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> What I would rather see than impeachment of Trump, who wouldn’t really suffer anything other than symbolic consequences anyway,

Well, Congress could take away his pension, Secret Service detail, and ban him from ever holding office again. That is way more than symbolic.

> [@asahi](#):
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> We should then use that elevated awareness to go immediately after Senators Cruz, Hawley, Kennedy, and others to pressure them into resignation, or if not that, then to make them as politically toxic as possible that the RNC pressures them into retirement. We should embarrass the benefactors who funded their campaigns even just casually.

Yep, especially Cruz, that suppurating, oozing, asshole. He wants the MAGAs to p=make him the GOP nom in 2024, let us make sure that doesnt happen.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/373 "2021-01-12T19:02:20Z")

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At least the 3rd Democratic lawmaker to test positive for Covid after sheltering with maskless Reputlicans.

> **[Illinois Rep. Brad Schneider tests positive for COVID-19, condemns maskless...](https://www.chicagotribune.com/2021/01/12/illinois-rep-brad-schneider-tests-positive-for-covid-19-condemns-maskless-republicans-during-capitol-riot-lockdown/)**
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> Illinois U.S. Rep. Brad Schneider announced Tuesday that he has tested positive for COVID-19 after being confined with members of Congress who refused to wear masks during the violent pro-Trump ins…

I don’t know if this will be possible, but if Hawley and Cruz are considered to have incited the riots, they could be put on the no-fly list like the other rioters. I’m doubtful this will happen.

> **[Cruz and Hawley Could be Put on No-Fly List—House Homeland Security Chair](https://www.newsweek.com/ted-cruz-josh-hawley-no-fly-list-house-homeland-security-chair-1560748)**
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> The Republican senators have faced calls to resign following the deadly riot at the Capitol on January 6.

> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> San Francisco gearing up for a Trump protest at Twitter HQ. I’m wondering if much will happen now that the planning platforms are gone and many of the leaders are not allowed on commercial airlines.

Got my answer here. There was **one** person at the protest at Twitter in SF. The police presence was intense for that one person. Shows the power of taking away social media.

> **[Only one person showed up to the pro-Trump protest outside Twitter’s San...](https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/11/22225721/twitter-protest-san-francisco-trump-stopthesteal-deplatforming)**
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> That’s just not very many people.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/374 "2021-01-12T19:03:51Z")

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I’ve read that the conditions inside the shelter were favorable to super-spread of COVID

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/375 "2021-01-12T19:17:11Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> I don’t know if this will be possible, but if Hawley and Cruz are considered to have incited the riots, they could be put on the no-fly list like the other rioters.

The stories from the last few days about rioters placed being on the No-Fly List are, basically, wrong. Some of the douchebags have been denied boarding or booted off flights for various reasons, but none of that is related to the No-Fly List.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/376 "2021-01-12T19:21:27Z")

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But I assume that the no-fly list is always a possibility for the future. I’m pretty sure that like driving licenses, there’s essentially no Constitutional protection here, right?

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/377 "2021-01-12T19:23:06Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> There was **one** person at the protest at Twitter in SF.

Take her down with an onion!

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/378 "2021-01-12T19:26:53Z")

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That’s probably true, although we might not know anyway, because I believe that the FBI’s official list is kept secret.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/379 "2021-01-12T19:30:41Z")

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I was expecting atleast 140 chars… oh well, what a twit.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/380 "2021-01-12T19:41:57Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> What I would rather see than impeachment of Trump, who wouldn’t really suffer anything other than symbolic consequences anyway

I agree with your post asahi, except. Strip away his 200k a year pension, his SS guards, his million a year travel allowance and office and staff that ex-presidents get. Impeached and convicted ex-presidents do not. The stupid, traitorous shit should have to pay for his own security and travel expenses. Not to mention own office and staff.

He should leave with nothing more than whatever towels he can stuff in his suitcase.

Oh and least I forget, if impeached and convicted he can never run for public office again. That would make his fake campaign fund/piggy bank a bit harder to get. Since his name is mud all over the world that looks like that’s going to be his only source of income.

I’m not a vindictive guy. But with this asshole, oh yeah.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/381 "2021-01-12T19:45:40Z")

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Does the political will really exist to convinct him, though? It would be really nice, but the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior, and Republican legislators have shown themselves, time and time again, to be cowards.

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