# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3890 "2023-02-01T15:02:43Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I know someone posted the link, but I’d really rather not read it.

I found it a fascinating little read, with some bizarre turns and unexpected support and acknowledgment for things I agree with. For example, they apparently want to abolish all prisons. While I wouldn’t go quite that far, they do acknowledge that prisons are overpopulated.

They write: “There are too many men in prison right now and we need to fix this mass incarceration problem. This obviously doesn’t mean bust open the gates right now. It means we need to start going in the opposite direction and recognize the people we are putting in cages are human beings.” That was actually a surprise for me, since the prisons are full of _those people_ that I would think the Proud Boys would prefer be kept incarcerated.

But their next point is to give everone a gun (though "not for free, obviously.) Then they go to legalizing drugs, admitting the drug war is a failure. Another point I’d agree with.

And then it’s the usual, end welfare, close the borders, etc. But those two stuck out to me as points I’d generally agree with. Also, I’d agree with “outlaw censorship,” but I suspect me and them have differing ideas of what qualifies as “censorship.”

The masturbating stuff is out of left field, entitled “No Wanks” in their literature. At least they do specify the one-yard-or-less ejactulation in front a woman must be with her consent. Do you think they have refs that bring out the chains to make sure it’s within three feet? And little Zoom-sex with your wife is expressly forbidden. Gotta be in person.

Interestingly, as of the writing, Muslims are not expressly forbidden, but rather: “There has been a lot of talk about whether Muslims should be allowed in. The elders have not settled this nor will they talk about an antiquated ban on ‘Abbos.’” That also slightly surprises me. I’d have thought Muslims would be banned right out of the gate.

Also some insight into their fashion sense: They hate flip-flops and cargo shorts. Absolutely no fedoras. Their recommended shoe is a black Red Wing classic maccasin toe boot. Preferred shirt is a black Fred Perry polo with gold piping.

I found it an amusing read. I mean, yes, it’s serious stuff, too, but I prefer to focus on the absurdity of it all.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3891 "2023-02-01T15:31:16Z")

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It’s always a little weird when looney men have the occasional good point. It’s more comfortable when they only say bad stuff.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3892 "2023-02-01T15:34:30Z")

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That’s how any cult works. If it is _all_ looney shit, then no one would be attracted. If there are a few reasonable ideas to hook people in though, getting them to then agree with the loony bits becomes easier.

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**Author:** ![lum\_s\_husband](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lum_s_husband/32/3698_2.png) [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3893 "2023-02-01T15:37:33Z")

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It’s hard work to be loony all the time with no slip ups.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3894 "2023-02-01T17:40:14Z")

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Gee, add in pause nine times a day to pray and it could be the Rule for a religious order of monks. Except for the wanking, of course. I think.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3895 "2023-02-01T18:08:19Z")

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Yeah, and that breakfast cereal initiation. Where in the heck did that idea come from? It sounds like a cross between a brutal street gang initiation and a family friendly party game. Was someone watching Family Feud or something when they came up with this?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3896 "2023-02-01T18:09:34Z")

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Like this? [Monty Python and The Holy Grail Monks (with subtitles) - YouTube](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e4q6eaLn2mY)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3897 "2023-02-01T18:32:43Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Preferred shirt is a black Fred Perry polo with gold piping.

Fred Perry stopped manufacturing those shirts two years ago because of their association with the Proud Boys.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3898 "2023-02-01T18:49:21Z")

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Ohio woman is suing her local sheriff because he didn’t stop the federal government from charging her in the 1/6 insurrection.  
[https://wcsmradio.com/index.php/news/70059/15/Celina-woman-files-a-25-million-dollar-lawsuit-against-Sheriff-Grey](https://wcsmradio.com/index.php/news/70059/15/Celina-woman-files-a-25-million-dollar-lawsuit-against-Sheriff-Grey)

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3899 "2023-02-01T20:20:37Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Fred Perry stopped manufacturing those shirts two years ago because of their association with the Proud Boys.

Sounds like a way to make some money. Who wants a Phred Ferry shirt?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3900 "2023-02-01T21:55:30Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Phred Ferry

If I’m making shirts for the Proud Boys, the label would be Pedo Fairy.

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3901 "2023-02-01T22:48:14Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Ohio woman is suing her local sheriff because he didn’t stop the federal government from charging her in the 1/6 insurrection.  
> [https://wcsmradio.com/index.php/news/70059/15/Celina-woman-files-a-25-million-dollar-lawsuit-against-Sheriff-Grey](https://wcsmradio.com/index.php/news/70059/15/Celina-woman-files-a-25-million-dollar-lawsuit-against-Sheriff-Grey)

I’m sure this will be revealed to be some flavor of that ‘Constitutional Sherriff’ nonsense.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3902 "2023-02-01T22:52:05Z")

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She and her husband are representing themselves, so of course it is.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3903 "2023-02-01T23:43:58Z")

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> [@Daithi\_Lacha](#):
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> I’m sure this will be revealed to be some flavor of that ‘Constitutional Sherriff’ nonsense.

> [@silenus](#):
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> She and her husband are representing themselves, so of course it is.

The motion to dismiss says:

> The plaintiff alleges she has been “trafficked,” and Defendant negligently permitted it.

I don’t know if ‘trafficked’ is a SovCit term, but it sounds like one they’d use.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3904 "2023-02-02T01:36:08Z")

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1/6 defendant, called an ‘insurrectionist’ by the judge, cries in courtroom and pleads for mercy.

The judge is unmoved, hands down a sentence of 68 months.

> **[Jan. 6 defendant who sprayed line of police sentenced after tearful apology](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/01/jan-6-defendant-sentenced-00080732)**
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> “You’re entitled to your political views but not to an insurrection," the judge said before delivering 68-month jail term.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3905 "2023-02-02T03:43:55Z")

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Here’s a couple of real winners:

> **[Michigan couple lost grandma’s car after rioting at U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6,...](https://www.metrotimes.com/news/michigan-couple-lost-grandmas-car-after-rioting-at-us-capitol-on-jan-6-fbi-says-32262130)**
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> Isaac Thomas is also accused of striking officers with a flagpole and bottle

> A Michigan couple charged with participating in the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol was forced to take a bus home from Washington, D.C., because they lost a car owned by one of their grandmothers.
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> Isaac Thomas, 20, of Flint, is accused of striking multiple officers with the pole of a blue Trump flag as he and Christina Legros, 22, of Beaverton, stormed the Capitol with a mob…
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> After the couple left the Capitol, they couldn’t figure out where they parked Legros’s grandma’s Chevrolet Equinox. Four days later, they returned to Michigan in a Greyhound bus.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3906 "2023-02-02T04:21:49Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> they couldn’t figure out where they parked Legros’s grandma’s Chevrolet Equinox.

Just one of several things they can’t figure out, I’m guessing.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3907 "2023-02-02T07:04:07Z")

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I’m starting to get the impression that the rioters weren’t the brightest bulbs.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3908 "2023-02-02T10:40:25Z")

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Text from Steve MB’s link…

> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> After the couple left the Capitol, they couldn’t figure out where they parked Legros’s grandma’s Chevrolet Equinox. Four days later, they returned to Michigan in a Greyhound bus.

After having spent the previous three nights walking DC’s streets, clicking the key fob and looking for the telltale flash of headlights.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3909 "2023-02-02T11:39:16Z")

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There’s a ‘Dude Where’s My Car’ joke in this somewhere.

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