# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3950 "2023-02-15T14:16:28Z")

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Just about the only good thing Trump is responsible for is the “kicking over the stones” and revealing to the world what the Republican party and its base is really about. Not “small government”, “fiscal responsibility”, or “law and order”, but rather the bigotry, fear, hatred, and greed. The party base didn’t just magically change when Trump was being his Trumpiest. He just revealed the truth behind the lies.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3951 "2023-02-15T17:33:33Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> The party base didn’t just magically change when Trump was being his Trumpiest. He just revealed the truth behind the lies.

Agree. And Trump fell ass first into that den of vipers. And they got a new viper.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3952 "2023-02-15T18:31:52Z")

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Right. This isn’t North Korea. A reality-based existence is available to anyone who wants it.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3953 "2023-02-16T02:21:33Z")

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Meadows has a subpoena as well. Jack smith moving along nicely.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3954 "2023-02-16T16:30:04Z")

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Callback to about eighty posts back, regarding the Proud Boys rules:

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> And the masturbation stuff is really weird. There are religious beliefs that forbid masturbation, yes – but they forbid masturbation. The idea is that you’re supposed to be having procreative sex, or none.

And they’re okay with members being gay. Are gay members expected to remain celibate?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3955 "2023-02-16T17:28:23Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> The idea is that you’re supposed to be having procreative sex, or none.

And if 'ya can’t get none, That’s why we have our monthly raping parties. Be sure to bring a ‘hot dish’ for the pot luck.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3957 "2023-02-16T18:20:46Z")

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**Modnote** : You have a clean record and I’ll chalk this up to just a bad joke.  
Rape jokes are not tolerated on the SDMB. Please, please do not do this again.

Offensive to many and makes many posters uncomfortable.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3958 "2023-02-16T20:04:55Z")

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Oh sorry. Of course.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3959 "2023-02-17T10:25:27Z")

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This is an interesting twist.

> **[Proud Boys leaders facing Jan. 6 charges say they intend to subpoena Trump](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/16/proud-boys-leaders-facing-jan-6-charges-say-they-intend-to-subpoena-trump-00083234)**
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> Prosecutors have underscored the group’s repeated responses to Trump’s public statements.

> “Donald trump called on patriots to stop the steal. We’re calling on Donald Trump to take the stand,” said Norm Pattis, attorney for Proud Boy Joe Biggs.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3960 "2023-02-17T10:35:30Z")

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“All I said was that the priest was troublesome. Everything they did in response to that is on them.”

Trump’s MO: all quid, no quo.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3961 "2023-02-17T11:17:27Z")

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So are the Proud Boys witchhunting too?

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3962 "2023-02-17T15:11:55Z")

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They are part of the deep state too!

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3963 "2023-02-17T16:40:57Z")

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they have been going back and forth on this issue, they delayed the trial 2 days for arguments.

this trial is quite the wild ride.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3964 "2023-02-17T16:48:59Z")

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Geez oh Pete, just how deep is this state? It should be coming out the other side or something by now.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3965 "2023-02-17T23:18:07Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> This is an interesting twist.
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> [Proud Boys leaders facing Jan. 6 charges say they intend to subpoena Trump - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/16/proud-boys-leaders-facing-jan-6-charges-say-they-intend-to-subpoena-trump-00083234)
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> > “Donald trump called on patriots to stop the steal. We’re calling on Donald Trump to take the stand,” said Norm Pattis, attorney for Proud Boy Joe Biggs.

#1. Norm Pattis, isn’t that Alex Jones’ lawyer?  
#2. At first I read that as “Joe Bob Briggs” and thought “damn, I’ve often wondered what happened to that guy.”

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3966 "2023-02-17T23:25:04Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> #1. Norm Pattis, isn’t that Alex Jones’ lawyer?

Yes, as we discussed a week ago in this thread.

> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> the proud boys trial is delayed a day as lawyer norm pattis (from alex jones trial) law license is suspended for 6 months.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3967 "2023-02-17T23:37:40Z")

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I thought I was feeling a little deja vu… 😛

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3968 "2023-02-18T00:10:36Z")

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His law license was reinstated pending the appeal of its suspension.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3969 "2023-02-19T03:51:33Z")

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That moves him up the list for a Republican SCOTUS appointment in a few years!

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3970 "2023-02-22T16:17:14Z")

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Kevin McCarthy has shared 40,000 hours of capitol surveillance footage from Jan 6 with Tucker Carlson.

Batten down the hatches; we’re about to be swamped with a shit storm of disinformation. God help us.

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