# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 200
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3991 "2023-03-04T16:38:34Z")
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3992 "2023-03-04T19:03:24Z")
> [@PatrickLondon](#): > > What are they calling it Sergeant PAB’s Lonely Hearts Qlub Band ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3993 "2023-03-05T03:33:16Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > Bravo! And huzzah! ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3994 "2023-03-05T05:18:15Z")
Or “Folsom Prison Blues”? How about “I Fought the Law (And the Law Won)”? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3995 "2023-03-05T06:17:42Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Chances that any of the families that are supposedly the recipient of the charity ever seeing a penny of this? Snowball in hell. The words “Trump” and “Charity” don’t have a very good track record. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3996 "2023-03-07T01:43:00Z")
There are videos being shown from the January 6 insurrection and it shows police escorting the “shaman” around the building peacefully. Saw this on twitter, he wasn’t treated like a criminal at all. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3997 "2023-03-07T03:16:40Z")
Tucker has released some of the video. Personally, I didn’t think Chansley was guilty of anything other than trespassing. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3998 "2023-03-07T05:30:47Z")
Trespassing . . . and walking around the Capitol with a fucking spear. [![](https://media.12news.com/assets/KPNX/images/4fd7bc72-39fb-4e75-a616-d7b6bfdb4eed/4fd7bc72-39fb-4e75-a616-d7b6bfdb4eed_1140x641.jpg) ](https://media.12news.com/assets/KPNX/images/4fd7bc72-39fb-4e75-a616-d7b6bfdb4eed/4fd7bc72-39fb-4e75-a616-d7b6bfdb4eed_1140x641.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/3999 "2023-03-07T08:36:22Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > fucking spear So **that’s** what that style of spear is. I guess in retrospect it should have been obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4000 "2023-03-07T16:32:29Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > There are videos being shown from the January 6 insurrection and it shows police escorting the “shaman” around the building peacefully. > Saw this on twitter, he wasn’t treated like a criminal at all. Your honor, I’d like to enter into evidence this video that shows my client peacefully mowing his lawn and playing football with his buddies. I know that the prosecution has shown video of him robbing a bank and tasing a guard. But it’s obvious from my specially chosen video that my client is just a peaceful family man. - Tucker Carlson, Fox Cherry Picker ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4001 "2023-03-07T19:38:55Z")
I have to add, I found the wording very amusing. “There are videos being shown”. Nice use of passive voice there. Sounds almost as good as “people are saying”. And nice avoidance of anything about the source of the videos (lying liar who lies Tucker Carlson) and who he got them from (partisan hack), and which other media got access to them (none) “There are videos being shown”. Freaking hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4002 "2023-03-07T20:05:45Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Interestingly, as of the writing, Muslims are not expressly forbidden, but rather: “There has been a lot of talk about whether Muslims should be allowed in. The elders have not settled this nor will they talk about an antiquated ban on ‘Abbos.’” That also slightly surprises me. I’d have thought Muslims would be banned right out of the gate. I’ve wondered about their level of racism since I noticed they had a lot of Hispanics in their group. While most people know Hispanics have a broad range of races, racists usually lump them all under the non-white category. The same with Muslims. Seems weird that they don’t outright ban them. Equally weird if they don’t ban gay people. [Enrique Terrio](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Tarrio) is still their leader, despite being a FBI informant. He also has said the following, so who the hell knows. > In regard to his views on extremist groups and ideologies, Tarrio has been quoted as saying, "I denounce white supremacy. I denounce anti-Semitism. I denounce racism. I denounce fascism. I denounce communism and any other -ism that is prejudiced towards people because of their race, religion, culture, tone of skin. In regard to his own ethnicity, he has said, "I’m pretty brown, I’m Cuban. There’s nothing white supremacist about me. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4003 "2023-03-08T00:04:56Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > There are videos being shown from the January 6 insurrection and it shows police escorting the “shaman” around the building peacefully. > Saw this on twitter, he wasn’t treated like a criminal at all. That footage shows the cops _ **escorting Chansley out** _–_not_ giving him a tour. As with everything Tucker showed, the conclusion he hopes you’ll reach—that the cops thought that those who entered the Capitol on January 6 were just dandy—is a lie. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4004 "2023-03-08T03:43:11Z")
can you cite that? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4005 "2023-03-08T16:00:35Z")
I think this does a pretty good job: [https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/06/politics/tucker-carlson-january-6-footage/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/06/politics/tucker-carlson-january-6-footage/index.html) Relevant portion: > [@](#): > > In court documents, however, prosecutors say that Capitol Police officers repeatedly tried to engage with Chansley and others in the crowd, asking them to leave. > > Prosecutors say that Chansley disobeyed that request and walked to the Senate floor. Video from that day shows officers following Chansley around the building, and an officer walks into the chamber with Chansley and continues to ask rioters to leave. > > Additionally, Capitol Police officers have testified at several January 6 trials that after the initial wave of rioters entered the building, they felt outnumbered and were afraid of escalating violence by engaging with the mob. Members of the crowd were therefore able to walk into the building without much, or any, physical resistance, according to the officers. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4006 "2023-03-08T16:39:31Z")
Thats the same that I read before as well, I didn’t know if there was one that specifically stated ‘escorting out’. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4007 "2023-03-08T17:03:15Z")
I think “asking them to leave” and then following him around as he continues to be an ahole is in the ballpark of “escorting out”. They were outnumbered and afraid of escalating violence so they didn’t throw him on the ground and cuff him as they’ve would’ve done during “normal” times. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4008 "2023-03-08T17:24:08Z")
They could have told him to put down the weaponized American flag, and then shot him if he didn’t comply. Can’t help but think that if he were a person of color that would have happened. He would have been desribed as a intimidating voodoo witch doctor instead of some type of cosplaying Shaman. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4009 "2023-03-08T17:24:17Z")
Tucker has mislead people. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4010 "2023-03-08T17:35:44Z")
I get that - and agree with it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=199) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=201)