# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 207
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4131 "2023-04-30T02:30:32Z")
My advice to them is to _stop_ drinking heavily. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4132 "2023-05-02T20:47:24Z")
NBC Tue, May 2, 2023 at 11:50 AM EDT Jurors deliberating the Proud Boys verdict sent a note to the trial’s judge asking for additional instructions on the seditious conspiracy charge leveled against the group in connection with the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. The jury also asked what they should do if there is any sort of deadlock in the case. NBC News’ Ryan Reilly reports. sounds like the jury is coming down to a few items. i believe that having so many charges against a bunch of people really makes it difficult for the jury. as with the oath keepers trail, there is a “this was bad, but not as bad as what x did” situation; that if each person was separate would not happen. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4133 "2023-05-03T00:23:30Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I didn’t think “My clients were drunk and stupid” is a valid defense, outside of the movie _Animal House_. Especially if you’re fat, too. No way to go through life. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4134 "2023-05-03T12:21:19Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Especially if you’re fat, too. No way to go through life. Dean Wormer was a wise man. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4135 "2023-05-03T14:30:30Z")
And now this: > **[Former FBI supervisor arrested on January 6-related charges allegedly...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/02/politics/jared-wise-former-fbi-january-6/index.html)** > > A former FBI supervisory special agent has been arrested on charges related to the January 6, 2021, US Capitol attack, according to court records. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4136 "2023-05-03T14:50:35Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > And now this: Come on, what tourist hasn’t said this to a mob attacking police officers: > Prosecutors say that Wise also encouraged other rioters who were attacking police in front of him, shouting, “Kill ‘em! Kill ‘em! Kill ‘em!” ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4137 "2023-05-04T14:42:50Z")
partial verdict is in on the proud boys trial. much back and forth going on right now between defence and judge. the jury is not in the court room as yet. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4138 "2023-05-04T15:07:20Z")
4 found guilty of seditious conspiracy! per cnn. nordean, rehl, biggs, and tarrio. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4139 "2023-05-04T15:09:29Z")
Excellent! ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4140 "2023-05-04T15:21:07Z")
the jury did not have a verdict with pezzola on seditious conspiracy. the jury has been sent back to deliberate on the charges that were not decided. interesting…they seem to be stuck on pezzola on some of the charges. 7 days and now back to deliberation. the tally so far: 31 guilty, 4 not guilty, 11 counts no verdict. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4141 "2023-05-04T16:13:03Z")
at this point 1020+ have been charged, 590+ have been convicted, 235+ have been sentenced, for actions on or around jan 6th. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4142 "2023-05-04T16:41:35Z")
But it was just a bunch of innocent tourists! ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4143 "2023-05-04T16:44:04Z")
Are these the first convictions for seditious conspiracy of anyone involved on Jan. 6? I hardly expect they’ll be the last. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4144 "2023-05-04T16:50:04Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > But it was just a bunch of innocent tourists! Seditious tourism in the first degree. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4145 "2023-05-04T16:54:30Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Seditious tourism Is that a capitol offense? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4146 "2023-05-04T17:10:14Z")
no, in jan. 2023, the oath keepers had convictions on seditious conspiracy. the actions on 6 jan 2021 are official sedition. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4147 "2023-05-04T18:23:42Z")
Thanks for the reminder! Now that it’s been established (again) that Jan. 6 was sedition, I look forward to “seditious conspiracy” appearing in future indictments involving more prominent people. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4148 "2023-05-04T19:28:51Z")
i look very forward to that. pezzola has been found not guilty of seditious conspiracy. it appears that the jury considered him not in proud boys leadership. it is my understanding that the jurors are done now. they have stated that they are deadlocked on the rest of the counts. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4149 "2023-05-04T20:40:43Z")
Nothing whatsoever on the Fox News website about these convictions. Their viewers will never know what happened. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4150 "2023-05-04T20:53:41Z")
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