# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4171 "2023-05-08T20:36:34Z")

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Sure, but it bears repeating!!

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> bears repeating

[![](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/05/17/13/3448871900000578-0-image-a-8_1463487460634.jpg) ](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/05/17/13/3448871900000578-0-image-a-8_1463487460634.jpg)

I will say that the phrase, “he stormed the U.S Capitol with his wife”, is reminiscent of, “he stormed the bunker with his bayonet”. As if he used her as a battering ram.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4173 "2023-05-08T22:43:22Z")

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The eyes! That blank, obedient stare!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4174 "2023-05-08T22:45:48Z")

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I don’t have a sub to Rolling Stone, but this is the lead for a story that came up in my feed:

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> “Stewart Rhodes, the founder of the Oath Keepers militia, is facing sentencing as the ringleader of a seditious conspiracy on Jan. 6, 2021 to prevent Joe Biden from becoming president.”
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> “The government is seeking to lock up Rhodes for the next 25 years. But Rhodes is arguing he should get a lenient sentence of ‘time served’ out of respect for his history of ‘good works,’ by which he means — and we swear we’re not making this up — creating the Oath Keepers in the first place.”

“Your honour, creating a militia willing to storm the Capitol is just following the noble example of our Patriot forefathers.”

Link to paywalled article:

> **[Oath Keepers Leader Wants Leniency for Public Service … of Creating the Oath...](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/stewart-rhodes-leniency-creating-oath-keepers-1234731524/)**
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> Stewart Rhodes, who last year was convicted of Jan. 6-related seditious conspiracy, wants leniency because he created the Oath Keepers militia.

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4175 "2023-05-09T13:35:36Z")

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The CBS report of the story (not paywalled):

> **[Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes asks for a sentence of time served after...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oath-keepers-leader-stewart-rhodes-asks-for-sentence-of-time-served/)**
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> Justice Department prosecutors are seeking a 25-year prison sentence.

> …Rhodes, who graduated from Yale Law School…

Well, I didn’t know that.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4176 "2023-05-09T17:33:34Z")

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If he’s smart enough to get into Yale, he _should_ be smart enough to know better. Yeesh.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4177 "2023-05-09T18:03:41Z")

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George W. Bush was a Yalie, so there’s that…

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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Not the law school, though. 😉

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4179 "2023-05-09T19:15:14Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> If he’s smart enough to get into Yale, he _should_ be smart enough to know better. Yeesh.

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> George W. Bush was a Yalie, so there’s that…

[Heavens a Yale Man! - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w-DuepzjxI)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4180 "2023-05-09T19:19:52Z")

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Thanks. You just made my day. 😄

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4181 "2023-05-09T21:53:59Z")

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> > Rhodes, who graduated from Yale Law School…
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> Well, I didn’t know that.

We don’t talk about it.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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Of the convicted insurrectionists, “I am inclined to pardon many of them,” Twitler says.

> **[Trump again refuses to concede 2020 election while taking questions from New...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/10/politics/cnn-town-hall-trump/index.html)**
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> Former President Donald Trump, the frontrunner for the GOP presidential nomination in 2024, once again refused to concede that he lost the 2020 election and repeated false claims about it being stolen at a CNN town hall in New Hampshire on Wednesday.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2023, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4183 "2023-05-11T15:42:50Z")

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[Man seen hanging from Senate balcony on Jan. 6 sentenced to 15 months - The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/05/10/senate-balcony-sentence-jan6/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=wp_homepage)

14 months for mr colt, who dangled from the balcony of the senate.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4184 "2023-05-11T16:57:48Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Of the convicted insurrectionists, “I am inclined to pardon many of them,” Twitler says.

Remind me, are they actually being prosecuted at state level or Federal?

Because POTUS doesn’t even have the power to pardon the state level ones.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2023, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4185 "2023-05-11T16:59:31Z")

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Correct, but these were offenses committed in Washington, D.C., so they’re all Federal prosecutions.

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**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2023, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4186 "2023-05-11T17:01:26Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> “I am inclined to pardon many of them,” Twitler says.

FFS I fear that he will be POTUS again and will do exactly that - release all the inmates from the asylum. It’s going to be bloody awful.

And also, of course (and unrelated to this thread) he’ll solve the whole Russia/Ukraine thing by throwing Ukraine, NATO and the west under the bus. Apologies for the hijack.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4187 "2023-05-11T18:10:37Z")

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[quote=“velomont, post:4186, topic:930020”]  
FFS I fear that he will be POTUS again and will do exactly that - release all the inmates from the asylum. …

He’ll probably make them his Cabinet.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2023, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4188 "2023-05-11T21:03:10Z")

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Now I’ve got an image of the Penguin, the Joker, the Riddler, CatWoman and others sitting around the Cabinet table, freshly arrived from Arkham.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4189 "2023-05-11T21:11:01Z")

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Just like a bit from the Adam West Batman series where the Penguin was running for mayor of Gotham City:

> **Penguin:** I just want to tell you you’re not to worry about your job. See, I’m appointing the Riddler new Commissioner of Police, and he’s promised to give you back your old job pounding the beat on the waterfront… And you tell that Irish stooge of yours that his next job will be shining the shoes of the new police chief… _(pause)_ the Joker!

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4190 "2023-05-19T20:39:11Z")

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> **[D.C. police lieutenant indicted on charge of tipping off Proud Boy Enrique...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/dc-police-lieutenant-indicted-tipping-proud-boy-enrique-tarrio-arrest-rcna85247)**
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> After Jan. 6, Lt. Shane Lamond said he supported the group and didn't "want to see your group’s name or reputation dragged through the mud," an indictment alleged.

" Tarrio, the former chair of the Proud Boys, was recently [found guilty of seditious conspiracy](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/jury-reaches-verdict-proud-boys-seditious-conspiracy-trial-rcna81129) in connection with the Capitol attack, along with other members of the far-right group. Tarrio was not in Washington on Jan. 6 after his arrest in connection with the burning of a Black Lives Matter banner, as he was [ban](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-bans-proud-boys-leader-washington-d-c-after-arrest-n1252906)[ned](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-bans-proud-boys-leader-washington-d-c-after-arrest-n1252906)[from the city](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-bans-proud-boys-leader-washington-d-c-after-arrest-n1252906) by a judge the day before the attack.

Shane Lamond, 47, was [indicted](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23816946-lamonds-indictment) on one count of obstruction of justice and three counts of making false statements, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia said Friday. A federal grand jury charged Lamond with obstructing the investigation into the burning of the banner Dec. 12, 2020, when the Proud Boys were roaming the streets of Washington for a pro-Trump event.

Between July 2019 and January 2021, Tarrio and Lamond communicated “at least 500 times using cloud-based messaging services, including Google Voice, Apple iMessages, and Telegram, an encrypted messaging application,” the indictment said. They sent approximately 145 messages using a secret chat function on Telegram that causes messages to disappear, the indictment charged, adding “at least 101 of these messages were destroyed.”

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