# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4631 "2023-09-01T21:27:01Z")

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Nordean 18 years. The longest of the proud boys so far.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4632 "2023-09-01T21:34:04Z")

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Proud boys: stand back to back in the shower and stand ready to spend the next decade in prison.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4633 "2023-09-01T21:39:45Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I think the sentences were fine. I wouldn’t cry if they were longer, but I think the point was made for deterrent purposes.

Same. 10-20 years in prison is a serious sentence, not a slap on the wrist.

I tend to think most prison sentences in the US are too long, but these seem right.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4634 "2023-09-01T21:48:24Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> Nordean 18 years. The longest of the proud boys so far.

Bangarang!

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4635 "2023-09-01T21:48:37Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> As soon as the judge left the court, pezzola yelled out “trump won” as he was lead away. While the judge was there, tearfully apology.

I wonder where his Trump will be in ten years (or 8-1/2 , whatever) when he gets out. Ha ha.

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**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4636 "2023-09-01T21:56:13Z")

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A slight hijack, for which I apologize, but I wonder how the proud boys will do against actual, real gang members if it comes to that.

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**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4637 "2023-09-01T21:57:31Z")

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> [@Disinfectus](#):
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> The judge offered his rationale

That makes sense, and I must have missed that.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4638 "2023-09-01T21:57:34Z")

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So, when it’s Trump’s turn to face the music, how will he be able to defend himself? I mean, all these morons have said they were roused to action by Trump, right? And they are all being sent to prison.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4639 "2023-09-01T22:09:52Z")

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I’m sure they’re memorizing the names of five different breakfast cereals right now so that they’ll be able to stop other prisoners from beating them up.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4640 "2023-09-01T22:17:57Z")

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> [@velomont](#):
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> A slight hijack, for which I apologize, but I wonder how the proud boys will do against actual, real gang members if it comes to that.

Nordeen was a bodybuilder and brawler.

> **[Ethan Nordean](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Nordean)**
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> Obstructing an official proceeding
> Ethan Nordean, also known as Rufio Panman, is an American far-right political activist, convicted felon and a leader of the Proud Boys, an all-male neo-fascist organization that engages in political violence.

Lots of others are ex-military.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4641 "2023-09-01T22:43:15Z")

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Not well. Perhaps a federal pen might be more forgiving on that front.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4642 "2023-09-01T22:44:42Z")

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Keep in mind, gang means plural.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4643 "2023-09-01T22:54:41Z")

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So does “boys”.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4644 "2023-09-01T22:58:25Z")

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Right. Are you unfamiliar with American prisons, and who lives there?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4645 "2023-09-01T23:57:47Z")

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I would assume they’d join forces with the resident [Aryan Brotherhood.](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/aryan-brotherhood)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4646 "2023-09-02T00:00:39Z")

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Here’s one that carried out his own sentence.

> **[22-Year-Old Jan. 6 Defendant Dies Less Than a Month After Being Arrested](https://www.westernjournal.com/22-year-old-jan-6-defendant-dies-less-month-arrested/)**
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> "Jord worked on the family’s ranch, and enjoyed riding horses, hunting, fishing, and doing anything outdoors," his obituary read.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4647 "2023-09-02T00:05:20Z")

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> …doing anything outdoors…

Right.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4648 "2023-09-02T12:01:35Z")

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Suicide?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4649 "2023-09-02T16:05:18Z")

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Nobody has stated for sure, but the _lack_ of a stated reason supports the possibility. MTG certainly thinks so.

> **['Gotta blame Trump': Marjorie Taylor Greene buried for blaming Biden for...](https://www.rawstory.com/mtg-j6-comments/)**
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> Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) took to her account on X Friday to mourn the death of Nejourde "Jord" Meacham, a 22-year-old Utah man who entered the Capitol on January 6 and hoisted a Trump flag at a broken window, two weeks after he was charged...

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4650 "2023-09-02T16:14:13Z")

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“Cop pulled me over for robbery, so I shot him. It’s the cops fault he’s dead”

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