# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4651 "2023-09-02T16:16:23Z")

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Nordean is from the same city I live in.

Glad he’s not gonna be around for a while.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4652 "2023-09-02T18:02:22Z")

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Are these Proud Assholes also going to be hit with civil suits from Capitol Police and survivors? I certainly hope so even though the trials would get them out of their prison cells for a while.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4653 "2023-09-02T19:36:16Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Are these Proud Assholes also going to be hit with civil suits from Capitol Police and survivors?

Lawyer rule #2- "never sue them that aint got no money. "

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4654 "2023-09-02T20:29:19Z")

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I wonder if someone will take a shot at garnishing funding from GriftSomeRubes, or whatever crowdfunding source they’re trying to lawyers out of. There would be some poetry in taking money funneled from their deranged supporters to help their victims.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4655 "2023-09-02T22:28:17Z")

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Isn’t there some kind of “son of sam” law that would prevent the Proud Asshole Boys from profiting from their crimes?

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4656 "2023-09-02T22:30:46Z")

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> **[Son of Sam law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_Sam_law)**
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> A Son of Sam law (also known as a notoriety-for-profit law) is an American English term for any law designed to keep criminals from profiting from the publicity of their crimes, for instance by selling their stories to publishers. Such laws often authorize the state to seize money earned from deals such as book/movie biographies and paid interviews and use it to compensate the criminal's victims. 
> These laws have been criticized as violating the free-speech guarantee of the First Amendment to th...

Pretty sure that doesn’t apply to legal defense funds.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4657 "2023-09-03T04:06:26Z")

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Proud Boy Biggs now waiting for Godot

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> Biggs then said his main hope is for Trump to win election in 2024: “I know he’ll pardon me. I believe that with all my heart.”

[https://www.meidastouch.com/news/proud-boy-biggs-from-prison-i-know-trump-will-pardon-me](https://www.meidastouch.com/news/proud-boy-biggs-from-prison-i-know-trump-will-pardon-me)

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4658 "2023-09-03T04:07:45Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Proud Boy Biggs now waiting for Godot …

I hope he followed his remark with, “I’d also like a pony.”

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4659 "2023-09-03T14:21:10Z")

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Wouldn’t it be hilarious if one day Biggs woke up to the sound of them putting Donnie in the cell beside him?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4660 "2023-09-03T14:44:24Z")

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“Boy, am I glad to see _you_ here! Hey, wait a minute, why are you crying? And holy shit, in _orange…?_

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4661 "2023-09-03T18:31:50Z")

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“…hey, Mister Trump…uh…Mister President…uh…about that pardon?..”

These people are so far gone from reality they’ll beleive anything, facts be damned.

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4662 "2023-09-03T19:57:21Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> “…hey, Mister Trump…uh…Mister President…uh…about that pardon?..”

Wouldn’t it be more like “Hey convict 8675309 . . . where’s our pardons?”

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4663 "2023-09-03T21:12:55Z")

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> [@Si\_Amigo](#):
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> Wouldn’t it be more like “Hey convict 8675309 . . . where’s our pardons?”

Yeah, but acknowledging Trump was convicted of something would be giving an inch.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4664 "2023-09-03T23:32:24Z")

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In the same interview mentioned above he complains about the food.

> **[Proud Boys leader predicts Trump will pardon him as he bemoans prison food](https://www.newsweek.com/proud-boys-leader-joseph-briggs-trump-pardon-prison-food-1824227)**
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> In the wake of his 17-year jail sentence, Joseph Bigg said: "Oh, I know he'll pardon. I believe that with all my heart."

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2023, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4665 "2023-09-04T07:16:12Z")

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> [@Si\_Amigo](#):
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> Wouldn’t it be more like “Hey convict 8675309 . . . where’s our pardons?”

Call Jenny. 😉

Should he be re-elected (which I doubt), I doubt that he will issue any pardons to Proud Boys, or similar. We already know that he regards those who die on the battlefield or are taken as POWs as “losers.” We further know that loyalty with him is a one way street: you are loyal to Trump, but he is not loyal to you. So here’s these guys, who couldn’t even manage an insurrection to reinstate him as President. Losers? Yes. Loyalty owed by Trump? None.

I think they’re going to be disappointed, should he be re-elected.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2023, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4666 "2023-09-04T07:50:58Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I think they’re going to be disappointed, should he be re-elected.

Well, I sure would be.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4667 "2023-09-05T19:05:57Z")

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Jury selection happening in navarro’s contempt of congress today.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4668 "2023-09-05T21:49:05Z")

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22 year sentence for Proud Boy Enrique Tarrio.

From the judge during sentencing:

> What happened that day damaged an important American custom that helps support the rule of law and the Constitution. That day broke our previously unbroken tradition of peacefully transferring power. That previously unbroken tradition is broken now. And it’s going to take time and effort to fix it.
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> It’s kind of hard to put into words how important that peaceful transfer of power is. Our country was founded as an experiment in self-government by the people. But it cannot endure if the way we elect our leaders is threatened by force and violence.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4669 "2023-09-05T21:51:06Z")

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22 years! Longest so far, and for someone who was not there.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4670 "2023-09-05T22:04:21Z")

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I know one person who will not be comforted by Tarrio’s sentence. Even if not present, being an instigator can come with a pretty significant punishment.

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