# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 236
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4711 "2023-09-08T14:52:58Z")
In light of the overall stupidity of these guys, shouldn’t there be some recognition of “exceptionally stupid” behavior? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4712 "2023-09-08T14:52:59Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Contrast that to the idiot Peter Navarro, who committed an exceptionally stupid crime and had no defense whatsoever. The “Don’t you know who I am?!?” defense doesn’t work too well in court. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4713 "2023-09-08T14:54:53Z")
Yes, its called an exceptional prison sentence. Sha na na na! Hey hey! Goodbye! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4714 "2023-09-08T14:57:35Z")
Once they get there, a special t-shirt: “I broke the stupid meter” or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4715 "2023-09-08T15:23:09Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > > [@Procrustus](#): > > > > Contrast that to the idiot Peter Navarro, who committed an exceptionally stupid crime and had no defense whatsoever. > > The “Don’t you know who I am?!?” defense doesn’t work too well in court. I thought his defense was “I have special executive privilege, which allows me to commit unlimited crimes.” ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4716 "2023-09-08T18:32:54Z")
tl;dr: “Don’t you know who I am?!?” It all boils down to thinking he’s special, he’s above the rules and laws that constrain mere petty underlings. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4717 "2023-09-08T18:41:04Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > It all boils down to thinking he’s special, he’s above the rules and laws that constrain mere petty underlings. I’m sure that’s part of it. But he was blabbing on last night about how he’s willing to go to prison in support of some principle. I can’t for the life of me figure out what that would be. The ability to ignore subpoenas is not a great principle to fight and die for. ETA: and he was confident that the Supreme Court would vindicate his right to ignore lawful subpoenas. Even the current Court won’t give him that. I think he perhaps he loses 8-1 or 7-2, but probably 9-0 ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4718 "2023-09-08T18:44:11Z")
I think he must mean the assumed by him and his kind “principle” that certain people are above the law as it applies to others. As far as I’m concerned, he is more than welcome to go to prison in support of that. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4719 "2023-09-08T19:48:41Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > But he was blabbing on last night about how he’s willing to go to prison in support of some principle. I can’t for the life of me figure out what that would be. Maybe the principle is “Trump won.” Pretty fucking stupid, but it probably makes him feel like some sort of conscientious objector. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4720 "2023-09-08T20:02:27Z")
The judge did not allow that defence, he had no back up for the claim. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4721 "2023-09-08T20:03:17Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > So, on the plea deals, was the offer “…if you plead guilty to these charges, you will get less time sentenced. But, if you do not plead guilty, and we have to prove it to a jury, you’ll get more time sentenced.” Do I have [that] right?.. A judge cannot punish a defendant simply for exercising his right to a jury trial, of course. But in discussing a proposed plea agreement, the judge can certainly explain that the defendant is facing less prison exposure if he takes the prosecution’s deal than if he goes to trial and is convicted of more, or all, charges. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4722 "2023-09-08T20:57:43Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > The judge did not allow that defence, he had no back up for the claim. And that, in turn, will be his defence on appeal. “The judge did not allow me to use an idiotic claim of omnipotence as a defence” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4723 "2023-09-09T14:52:10Z")
The family that insurrects together incarcerates together. > **[‘Zip Tie Guy’ and His Mom Get Prison Time Despite Pleas for Mercy](https://www.thedailybeast.com/zip-tie-guy-and-his-mom-get-prison-time-for-capitol-riot-despite-pleas-for-mercy)** > > Eric Munchel’s attorneys insisted his alarming attire during the Capitol riot was “evidence of nothing, save a certain fashion taste.” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4724 "2023-09-09T15:01:58Z")
Well, that gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling. Maybe [Andy Taylor will help them have a nice Christmas in stir.](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0512460/?ref_=ttep_ep11) ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4725 "2023-09-09T15:03:59Z")
I was going to say he should prove that assertion with family photos, but I’m not actually 100% sure they’re not being truthful about that part. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4726 "2023-09-09T18:28:43Z")
> Munchel’s getup “intentionally communicated to anyone looking at [him] that he was prepared for violence.” Further, as laid out in charging documents, he was heard pushing his way into the Capitol while shouting such slogans as, “We ain’t playing fucking nice no goddamn more,” and “We’re fucking ready to fuck shit up.” Yeah, he done fucked up all right. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4727 "2023-09-09T18:37:00Z")
> Eisenhart, who lives in Georgia, had expressed worries that prison time would mean an effective end to her career in healthcare 🥲 Awww. Well, prisons need healthcare workers, too, Mom. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4728 "2023-09-09T18:48:47Z")
A nurse should do better in prison than most. She has valuable skills she can use for barter. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4729 "2023-09-09T21:58:49Z")
[A rioter nicknamed “Gas Hat” was arrested today.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/gas-hat-jan-6-rioter-first-breached-capitol-tunnel-entrance-arrested-f-rcna102361) Man, those Sedition Hunters are a treasure! And all of those cameras in the Capitol sure provide nice evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4730 "2023-09-11T09:47:21Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > [A rioter nicknamed “Gas Hat” was arrested today.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/gas-hat-jan-6-rioter-first-breached-capitol-tunnel-entrance-arrested-f-rcna102361) Is the G silent? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=235) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=237)