# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/462 "2021-01-13T03:33:24Z")
Meaningless. But it is nice to see the vote. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/463 "2021-01-13T03:33:55Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I do not believe that such a course of action is in the best interest of our nation or **consistent with our Constitution,** ” Pence wrote. - Is Pence such a total dipshit that he doesn’t understand why it’s called the 25th **AMENDMENT**? ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/464 "2021-01-13T03:40:02Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Well, according to the resolution, it happened a year ago… Yikes, I missed that. Wonder if it’s a typo, or if they were already that far gone last year? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/465 "2021-01-13T03:41:18Z")
I think it was just a typo. You’d think someone would proofread such an _important_ statement though. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/466 "2021-01-13T04:18:31Z")
It’s hard to reconcile this with the images of cops taking selfies with the rioters. Did the violence happen closer to the end? ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/467 "2021-01-13T04:20:27Z")
This seems to be a losing cause for Pelosi. Is there really anything it will do except rile up the gun nuts? It will give them something to focus on besides Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/468 "2021-01-13T04:24:27Z")
At some point you can’t concern yourself with riling up the other side. They’re already riled. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/469 "2021-01-13T04:25:46Z")
The MAGAites who arent willing to storm the barricades are pushing “it was Antifa” and “whatabout the Portland riots?” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/470 "2021-01-13T04:26:55Z")
> [@Chad\_Sudan](#): > > I’m with you about starting this thread, but you might want to tweak the title. The storming of the White House is still a ways off. In the United States, the Capitol is not the White House. It’s the building where Congress meets. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/471 "2021-01-13T04:30:19Z")
Yes, the Capitol is in the Capital. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/472 "2021-01-13T04:30:30Z")
The original title of this thread was “…storming of the White House”. It has since been corrected. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/473 "2021-01-13T04:34:25Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > At some point you can’t concern yourself with riling up the other side. They’re already riled. Yes, this exactly. At some point, we have to go through the horrible period of actual conflict. It’s happening now and all we can do is postpone the inevitable. Why wait until they are further emboldened, better organized and supported? We’ve appeased and waited too long already. I’m not saying we should unnecessarily provoke. But people must recognize, we’re already in the midst of this and there is no way forward except through the chaos. We can’t let their threats deter us from doing what is right and just for the country – no matter the consequences. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/474 "2021-01-13T04:41:51Z")
You don’t want to give them anything to talk about except Trump’s sedition. Don’t give them a whiff of something where they can come across as the ones in the right to people teetering on the edge. Make it all Trump, all sedition. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/475 "2021-01-13T04:44:10Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > Don’t give them a whiff of something where they can come across as the ones in the right to people teetering on the edge. Yeah, don’t impose any consequences. Just speak in disapproving tones. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/476 "2021-01-13T04:44:28Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > The original title of this thread was “…storming of the White House”. It has since been corrected. I apologize for the fault in my post. Those responsible have been sacked. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/477 "2021-01-13T04:44:36Z")
Mynd you, møøse bites Kan be pretti nasti… ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/478 "2021-01-13T05:10:27Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I apologize for the fault in my post. Those responsible have been sacked. Mistakes were made. Capitol is the operative thread title, other thread titles are inoperative. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/479 "2021-01-13T06:30:08Z")
This is classy: > **[St. Croix GOP refuses to remove 'prepare for war' post](https://apnews.com/article/madison-wisconsin-capitol-siege-58b305957fc1b09634391f3b066513f4)** > > MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A local Republican group in northwestern Wisconsin refused to take down an online message urging conservatives to “prepare for war” despite urging from the state GOP and the violence last week at the U... ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/480 "2021-01-13T07:00:32Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > This is classy: It’s Schroedinger’s terrorism: If they can get enough people on board then sure they’ll attack. But if they can’t, then obviously it was only impassioned hyperbole about political opposition that was never meant to be taken literally as a call for violence, and how dare any divisive liberals suggest that they might have considered any actions contrary to law and order. Schroedinger’s terrorism has been the hallmark of Donald Trump’s approach and of Trumpist Republicanism all along. Whether or not they really mean to advocate lawlessness depends on whether they think they’ll get away with it. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/481 "2021-01-13T07:11:11Z")
This seems troubling: > It’s mentioned in passing in the linked article, and there’s no detailed follow-up, so it’s unclear whether “torn out” means simply “removed,” as in, there was some maintenance underway and the panel was temporarily missing and the timing was exceptionally unfortunate, or if “torn out” means literally physically ripped out by an unknown person in the very immediate past, indicating nefarious intent and detailed planning involving insiders. There isn’t enough yet to know how to interpret this. This is one of the hundred little details that would be easy to speculate irresponsibly about. Personally, I’m making a mental note on this and similar items to watch for more information, but withholding any further conclusions. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=25)