# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 249
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4971 "2024-01-11T23:02:35Z")
To their credit, some GOP senators are pushing back on Trump’s labeling the J6 prisoners as “hostages.” [https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4398808-gop-senators-slap-down-trump-on-jan-6-hostages/](https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4398808-gop-senators-slap-down-trump-on-jan-6-hostages/) ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4972 "2024-01-24T22:08:50Z")
Do not, repeat, do not piss off the judge before he hands down your sentence. > **[Proud Boys member sentenced to 6 years in prison for Capitol riot role after...](https://apnews.com/article/marc-bru-sentencing-capitol-riot-proud-boys-b5b07bfef5942c73c14f0da6edef1517?user_email=c670f76b9ea3e4a287eac163aa636c2982b094e37632506fec6dbc1d27c6da2a&utm_medium=Afternoon_Wire&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_campaign=AfternoonWire_Jan24_2024&utm_term=Afternoon%20Wire)** > > A man who stormed the U.S. Capitol with fellow Proud Boys extremist group members has been sentenced to six years in prison. > A man who stormed the U.S. Capitol with fellow Proud Boys extremist group members was sentenced on Wednesday to six years in prison after he berated and insulted the judge who punished him. > > Marc Bru repeatedly interrupted Chief Judge James Boasberg before he handed down the sentence, calling him a “clown” and a “fraud” presiding over a “kangaroo court.” The judge warned Bru that he could be kicked out of the courtroom if he continued to disrupt the proceedings. > > “You can give me 100 years and I’d do it all over again,” said Bru, who was handcuffed and shackled. > > “That’s the definition of no remorse in my book,” the judge said. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4973 "2024-01-24T22:15:58Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > “You can give me 100 years and I’d do it all over again,” said Bru, who was handcuffed and shackled. I had no idea there were so many insane people out there. Misguided, sure. Uninformed, perhaps. Lied to, certainly. But this is a whole other level. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4974 "2024-01-24T22:21:07Z")
Guy’s lucky there are sentencing guidelines or the judge might have been tempted to take him up on his offer. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4975 "2024-01-24T23:44:21Z")
Well, they’re just _guidelines_, right? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4976 "2024-01-25T00:01:51Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I had no idea there were so many insane people out there. Misguided, sure. Uninformed, perhaps. Lied to, certainly. But this is a whole other level. My theory is that a lot of these people have been targeted and damaged emotionally by propaganda and brainwashing. Both by right wing media and other believers. That leaves them damaged and dangerous, and they act irrationally. They are victims and victimizers at the same time. There are going to be many years of analysis over this movement, probably similar to those who analyzed the Nazi movement in Germany. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4977 "2024-01-25T01:02:42Z")
Agree. I wonder if these people will someday, maybe during their stay in prison, have a revelation that they threw their life away for a bunch of lies, or worse yet, for nothing at all. It did not have to be that way, but they took action and used violence, fueled by lies - I just have to wonder if any of them will wake up from the fever dream and say “oh, shit!” But, yeah, there are a lot of people who are in desperate need of de-programming, and the ones getting caught in the legal system may be the only ones that actually get some help. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4978 "2024-01-25T06:21:36Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > My theory is that a lot of these people have been targeted and damaged emotionally by propaganda and brainwashing. Both by right wing media and other believers. That leaves them damaged and dangerous, and they act irrationally. The hardcore right have been radicalized by Fox News and its ilk in almost exactly the same way the angry, desperate, disaffected youth of Pakistan, Indonesia, etc. have been radicalized by Islamic extremists. Amp up their self-perception as victims, provide a scapegoat who can be blamed for that victimhood, lather rinse repeat, then mobilize and capitalize. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4979 "2024-01-25T17:42:20Z")
peter navarro 4 months for defying congressional subpoena. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4980 "2024-01-25T19:52:36Z")
> **[Chicago cop who stormed US Capitol with his sister sentenced to probation,...](https://abc7chicago.com/karol-chwiesiuk-chicago-police-officer-sentenced-january-6-us-capitol-attack/14356677/)** > > Chicago police officer Karol Chwiesiuk has avoided jail time for his role in the January 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol. A City of Chicago cop who entered the Capitol with his sister avoided jail time and is convicted of misdemeanors. The loser is still on the police force, on unpaid leave. I read elsewhere that he is seeking renewal/return of his FOID card, a requirement for reinstatement as a cop. I really would have wished that his actions would have resulted in him no longer being a gun carrying police officer. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4981 "2024-01-25T20:00:40Z")
It’s nice to see families doing things together, though. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4982 "2024-01-25T20:09:22Z")
The family that trespasses together, uh….sorry, can’t think of a good rhyme. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4983 "2024-01-25T20:15:13Z")
…dumbasses together? ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4984 "2024-01-25T20:16:15Z")
Oh! That’s pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4985 "2024-01-26T19:22:03Z")
I’m simply going with: _The family that fucks around together, finds out together_. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4986 "2024-01-26T20:28:23Z")
Even better. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4987 "2024-02-03T16:38:50Z")
Good - one of the main instigators nabbed. > **[Ryan Samsel, Jan. 6 defendant who instigated breach, convicted of multiple...](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/02/ryan-samsel-jan-6-defendant-00139344)** > > Samsel and four others were convicted of participating in the “civil disorder” wrought by the mob and of assaulting police officers. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4988 "2024-02-06T18:19:35Z")
Woohoo!: [https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/06/politics/trump-immunity-court-of-appeals/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/06/politics/trump-immunity-court-of-appeals/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4989 "2024-02-06T18:55:46Z")
I know - lawyer talk. But does anyone actually believe that Trump “respectfully disagrees” with the decision? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/4990 "2024-02-06T19:35:54Z")
Nope. I think Trump spokesman Steven Cheung respectfully disagrees. I think Trump believes that if he personally is not allowed to break the law and engage in insurrections, then that will be “nation-destroying” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=248) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=250)