# 7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 8, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020 "2021-01-08T10:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 253
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5051 "2024-03-23T01:45:43Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > live people voting for dead politicians. That’s already been done in Pennsylvania, thanks to an election law there. > **[Pa. State Rep Reelected Despite Being Dead: Why Was He on the Ballot?](https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/decision-2022/late-pennsylvania-rep-was-on-ballot-due-to-law-not-fraud/3420028/)** > > Pennsylvania Rep. Tony DeLuca was re-elected in the midterm elections even though he died a month ago. Why was he on the ballot and how did he win? Subheadline: “If a candidate dies, Pennsylvania state law only allows replacement candidates to be submitted if ballots have not yet started printing”. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5052 "2024-03-23T17:51:13Z")
Mel Carnahan famously beat John Ashcroft back in 2000 (?) for a Senate seat from MO despite being dead. Unfortunately, Dubya then picked Ashcroft for Attorney General, so that didn’t exactly work out the way we had hoped. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5053 "2024-03-23T22:58:07Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > Ah sweet summer child, you expect consistency from DJT? I do, in one particular case: When his Twuth Social goes public, I expect the results will be totally consistent with the previous time he took a company of his public: He will make millions, and the company will bleed money for years with a total loss of over a billion dollars, and eventually declare bankruptcy. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5054 "2024-03-24T00:39:18Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > ETA: I was wrong, not vegan, just organic. Organic is defined by national [government regulations](https://www.agdaily.com/technology/the-list-of-pesticides-approved-for-organic-production/) that vary between nations, change over time, and, in the U.S., allow some synthetic insecticides, but not others. Because of that, I thought it was a bit, uh, strange, that the government accepted his claim that his religion requires food to be organic. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5055 "2024-03-24T01:22:48Z")
Ah but that’s consistency on his _actions_ not his _words_ ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5056 "2024-05-17T19:04:46Z")
brent bozell has been sentenced to nearly 4 years. the bozell family have been big names in conservative activism. his grandmother is a buckley another big name in those circles. the prosecution was asking for 11 years, mr bozell was sentence to 3 years 9 months. [Conservative activist’s son sentenced to nearly 4 years in prison for ‘relentless’ attack on Capitol - The San Diego Union-Tribune (sandiegouniontribune.com)](https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story/2024-05-17/conservative-activists-son-sentenced-to-nearly-4-years-in-prison-for-relentless-attack-on-capitol) from the article: [More than 1,350 people](https://interactives.ap.org/jan-6-prosecutions/) have been charged with federal crimes related to the Capitol riot. Over 850 of them have been sentenced, with roughly two-thirds receiving a term of imprisonment ranging from a few days to [22 years](https://apnews.com/article/enrique-tarrio-capitol-riot-seditious-conspiracy-sentencing-da60222b3e1e54902db2bbbb219dc3fb). ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5057 "2024-05-17T21:01:48Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > Interesting strategy: the defendant expresses remorse in front of the judge, while his old man screams about liberal bias. Screaming about liberal bias has been the Bozell family business for generations. WFB would be so proud. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5058 "2024-05-28T19:05:32Z")
Sounds good to me: > **[Biden reelection campaign enlists January 6 police officers to campaign in...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/28/politics/biden-campaign-january-6-officers/index.html)** > > The Biden reelection campaign has enlisted three police officers – all of whom were working at the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, when rioters overtook the building – to stump for Biden across battleground states in the coming weeks, the campaign... ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5059 "2024-06-06T19:33:25Z")
6+ years for andrew taake. A Donald Trump supporter who assaulted law enforcement officers with bear spray and a metal whip — and who was arrested thanks to a woman’s sting operation on the dating app Bumble — was sentenced to just over six years in prison on Wednesday. [Jan. 6 rioter caught in a woman’s Bumble dating app sting sentenced to prison (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/jan-6-rioter-caught-in-a-woman-s-bumble-dating-app-sting-sentenced-to-prison/ar-BB1nHPVL?ocid=BingNewsSerp) ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5060 "2024-06-07T00:59:16Z")
I had to read that headline three times before I realized that the “sting” occuring on “bumble” was just a coincidence. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5061 "2024-06-07T01:01:11Z")
> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#): > > I had to read that headline three times before I realized that the “sting” occuring on “bumble” was just a coincidence I didn’t even catch that! ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5062 "2024-06-07T01:27:21Z")
So it was a “honeypot”? ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5063 "2024-06-07T01:32:02Z")
ISWYDT! It’s also sometimes referred to as a “honey trap”, or a “10 attack” (think Bo Derek.) ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5064 "2024-06-07T01:38:37Z")
> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#): > > I had to read that headline three times before I realized that the “sting” occuring on “bumble” was just a coincidence. Here is the story about the sting: > **[Jan. 6 rioter nabbed in Bumble dating app sting pleads guilty to assaulting...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/jan-6-rioter-nabbed-bumble-dating-app-sting-pleads-guilty-assaulting-o-rcna130593)** > > Andrew Taake was turned in by a Bumble user who used the dating app to try to elicit confessions from Donald Trump supporters who took part in the Capitol attack. So a private citizen set up the sting and then turned evidence over to authorities: > [@](#): > > “I felt a bit of ‘civic duty,’ I guess, but truthfully, I was mostly just mad and thinking, f— these guys,” she said, speaking anonymously for fear of online reprisal. > > Her strategy, she said, was to say, "Wow, crazy, tell me more,” on repeat until guys gave her enough to send their information to the FBI. So maybe bumble/sting was a coincidence. Or maybe she deliberately picked Bumble because of the name. Or it is even possible that the app name helped give her the idea. I do not think we’ll ever know. I have negative feelings about volunteer crime investigation. I hope it does not become common. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5065 "2024-06-07T01:57:33Z")
I’d have more of a problem with this if law enforcement had instigated the sting. Or if anyone had broken laws. (Is there any evidence of that?) And since I’ve had first-hand experience with right-wing law enforcement actively enlisting and pressuring private citizens, I understand your concerns. I’ll wait to see what comes out. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5066 "2024-06-07T02:39:38Z")
> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#): > > I’d have more of a problem with this if law enforcement had instigated the sting. Or if anyone had broken laws. (Is there any evidence of that?) What Witness 1 did sounds legal to me. I’m not saying it was wrong. My negative emotional reaction may be irrational. If people start doing this to expose other crimes, eventually someone will make a mistake in setting up their VPN and/or burner phone, lose anonymity, and get murdered by the perp. So please do not try this at home! ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5067 "2024-06-07T03:46:22Z")
Could bee… ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5068 "2024-06-07T04:16:21Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I have negative feelings about volunteer crime investigation. I hope it does not become common. But then we’d be menaced by all the criminals who’d been caught by Jessica Fletcher and Batman… ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5069 "2024-06-07T04:23:36Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I have negative feelings about volunteer crime investigation. I concur, but this seems more like catching someone we already knew was guilty, just that we didnt have a name, just video. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/5070 "2024-06-28T14:52:53Z")
the supreme court limits obstruction charges in jan. 6th case. the supreme court is sending it back down. from nbc news: The court concluded that the law, enacted in 2002 as part of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act after the Enron accounting scandal, was only intended to apply in limited circumstances involving tampering with physical evidence. The court sent the case back to lower courts for further proceedings on whether the Justice Department could still prosecute Fischer under the new interpretation of the law. The statute[in question](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1512), 18 U.S. Code 1512, carries a prison sentence of up to 20 years. To what extent the ruling favors Trump remains to be seen. Prosecutors in Trump’s case said that even if Fischer wins, Trump’s conduct would [still be covered](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/supreme-court-tackles-jan-6-obstruction-charge-trump-case-looming-rcna147421) by a narrower interpretation of the statute. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=252) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020.md?page=254)